Pulling why?

[winsock]

OP: Because there is a small subset of the community that sees you as being there for their enjoyment. They do not care for your experience. Happens sometimes when you are pulling wall to wall too, so its not going to stop completely even when you have more experience. A DPS will decide to blow all their cooldowns during the pull or a player with an 25yalm insta will pull in front of you just cause they can outrange you for example. As you get better at tanking, you'll see it happen less, and even when it does occur, it's more of a minor annoyance than anything else.

If you ever want to have fun with it, know that it's usually a double standard:

It's a team effort!
Don't take all the initial aggro during a w2w! Save some for your team members!
If a healer is helping you pull, make sure you use clemency whenever possible to help them heal and return the favor!
If a dps is helping you pull, be sure you let them know that you're helping them as well by telling them you did more dmg than they did!
Your party members will thank you for your efforts, help, and consideration!

But ya, it's not going to go away if you want to pug. If it really starts to frustrate you, find good people to run with, switch to dps, or even stop playing. A game that's stressing you out isn't worth it. Games are for fun.

[Burmecia]

Why do healers or dps feel the need to pull wall to wall when the tank doesn’t want to or can’t.

Something something, "tank isn't the puller role!!". "YPYT is toxic!".

[Yuella]

Only in NA. Never seen this toxicity in JP.

[Supersnow845]

Only in NA. Never seen this toxicity in JP.

Yeah in JP you just get doxxed on 2chan instead

[Mayhemmer]

Literally no one actually wants to bother with this every single run, when it's almost certain everyone already agrees from a quick look at their character sheet and gear. I've no idea why people keep posturing with this "communication you guys!" stuff when you know full well it's annoying having to ask a permission to what is tantamount to simply playing the game.

If there's one thing I've taken away from discussion about this game lately, it's that vast amounts of players just don't want have to account for or even deal with other players, and I find that more than a little disheartening.

[Daliena]

If there's one thing I've taken away from discussion about this game lately, it's that vast amounts of players just don't want have to account for or even deal with other players, and I find that more than a little disheartening.

That really goes both ways, and yet some people seem very insistent in this thread that everyone must accommodate the timewasters, and they are responsible to no-one because who cares about the rest of the group right?

[MitsukiKimura]

Only in NA. Never seen this toxicity in JP.

Nah it's called the Golden rule. You want others to respect your time, you must respect others time. Haven't had no issues and been playing for over 6 years. It's become the standard to W2W pull based on how mindless easy it is.

[rawker]

OP: Because there is a small subset of the community that sees you as being there for their enjoyment. They do not care for your experience. Happens sometimes when you are pulling wall to wall too, so its not going to stop completely even when you have more experience. A DPS will decide to blow all their cooldowns during the pull or a player with an 25yalm insta will pull in front of you just cause they can outrange you for example. As you get better at tanking, you'll see it happen less, and even when it does occur, it's more of a minor annoyance than anything else.

If you ever want to have fun with it, know that it's usually a double standard:

It's a team effort!
Don't take all the initial aggro during a w2w! Save some for your team members!
If a healer is helping you pull, make sure you use clemency whenever possible to help them heal and return the favor!
If a dps is helping you pull, be sure you let them know that you're helping them as well by telling them you did more dmg than they did!
Your party members will thank you for your efforts, help, and consideration!

But ya, it's not going to go away if you want to pug. If it really starts to frustrate you, find good people to run with, switch to dps, or even stop playing. A game that's stressing you out isn't worth it. Games are for fun.

1 more crucial step: if you have aggro, run towards the tank so it is easier for them to take it away from you. Kinda difficult trying to babysit a mob all while seeing someone else with aggro run away from me as if I didn't take a bath for months.

[ThorneDynasty]

If there's one thing I've taken away from discussion about this game lately, it's that vast amounts of players just don't want have to account for or even deal with other players, and I find that more than a little disheartening.

Do you mean the people who genuinely think every standard dungeon run starts a little team huddle where you take time establish everyone's preferences, and that most players think that's a wonderful system? Because yeah, those people must have not actually played this game or any other online multiplayer game ever.

[Absurdity]

Do you mean the people who genuinely think every standard dungeon run starts a little team huddle where you take time establish everyone's preferences, and that most players think that's a wonderful system? Because yeah, those people must have not actually played this game or any other online multiplayer game ever.

Maybe we would have something like that, maybe it would even make sense to do so, if every dungeon after level 65 weren't the exact same dungeon with a different wallpaper.

And I think I'm already being rather generous with only calling every dungeon after Bardam's Mettle the same dungeon.