SE if you're going to keep housing the way it is YOU NEED MORE WARDS

[Jeeqbit]

Your whole argument just went out the window when you opened that it was easy. If it were really that easy they would have done it!

No it didn't, because they have done it. Apartments and FC rooms is literally instanced housing. It's not unlimited, but it is close to it with how many there are.

The issue is priority on the instances

I mean, sure, if they want to make it feel slightly closer to unlimited than it currently is. But we get so many rooms in houses and apartments that it's easy to get them compared to an actual house. This is not even the issue the people have. The issue they have is with getting an actual house in a ward.

how much data it is using.

Data is not the issue as much, because Apartments and FC rooms allow for far more than the single houses themselves do. Of course, data would be better if they had an unlimited scaling cloud server, but it's not impossible to add more HDD space because they've done it when expanding the wards, inventory or Island Sanctuary which gave furniture slots to every single player.

We know housing wards, island sanctuary, and other places basically hog other instances data.

They do put Area Servers onto the same physical machine with other Area Servers. Typically, low activity areas are paired with 1 higher activity area. That is an obvious way to do it. But they are separate server programs.

We've seen this at the beginning of major patches, and expansions where you can't even get into your own islands, or or instanced rooms.

That's most likely because if enough people enter their apartment, FC room or house, then all the instance slots are filled on that private chamber Area Server. People love to hang out at their houses, so it's not a surprise if that happens after a major patch.

The fact it can happen already proves it's not an issue to make more rooms or apartment slots, because if too many people enter their interior at the same time, it will just give the error like it currently does.

It is NOT an easy task to remedy this, so what we should be pursuing is to push SE to upgrade their datacenters, and servers to allow for a large addition to housing space, and new wards.

I think you are arguing that we need more interior instances and that we should be able to use different Private Chamber area servers when one is full, so that we don't encounter the "is full" error. But that's not the issue I am talking about at all. That is mostly a Balmung-exclusive issue.

I am talking about the real issue. More ward servers.

This WILL take time. The server shortages didn't end during Covid. They are still strained and very real even in 2024. To order servers basically takes months to years for this kind of a situation.

Which is why I was talking about cloud servers. Do you understand what cloud servers are? They are virtual machines stretched over a dynamic number of real machines, allowing you to scale them at the press of a button online. They recently tested one hosted by Amazon, a massive company that already has the server equipment you are referring to.

[DamianFatale]

That's a weird way to say please add 18 new larges to each world.

What about start asking for solutions, not just bandaids that fall off after first two weeks.

My thread isn’t about instanced housing. It’s about the fact that even when they double down on the system we already have, there are still too many flaws in the system.

[Palin]

My thread isn’t about instanced housing. It’s about the fact that even when they double down on the system we already have, there are still too many flaws in the system.

and a good solution to those flaws would be instanced housing system

[Stormpeaks]

I got a medium house there was 3 bidders on it. It's in a prime location just outside in Market board and a bell.
This new system is far better then the old.

You can also move to new servers or low pop ones and have a better chance.

The big thing sq needs to do is remove houses from people who have 20 houses. And be like the 1st house you enter after patch x is the only one you get to keep all others will be sent to housing slavager

Clearly those VERY FEW people with multiple houses are the reason why there's scarcity, if they were removed there would be houses for everyone right ?

Oh wait there wouldnt be, they'd all sell in a single round of lottery

like do you even think at all before you call that the "big thing" ?

[Burmecia]

But, nobody wants to hear "transfer servers if you want a house."

Yup. I am suspecting that while SE isn't lazy with new wards to be big meanieheads, the~eey probably silently think it's legit ok incentive for people to spread from overpopulated servers to smaller ones, because wouldn't it be fun to have that house.

[Larirawiel]

Your whole argument just went out the window when you opened that it was easy. If it were really that easy they would have done it!

Not necessarily. It's often so, that the devs do not implement braindead easy things because they do not get a budget for it. Or they have a policy like "the game must still run on a PS3" or so. Which would explain the very blurry textures in FF14 etc.

Or look how long Bugthesda needed to implement DLSS in Starfield. Modders did it in one(!) day. And they could do it without the source code of the game. So the assumption, that something is hard to do because it is not already in the game, is not always right.





Cheers

[dspguy]

I can't speak for other servers, but my server is fairly populous and there were still available private plots (0 bids) at end of the second lottery when the new wards were added about a year ago.

I was informing people in various linkshells and Novice Network of ward/plot numbers that had 0 bids. There were dozens. I think maybe 1 person came and bid in the last 3 hours after I was trying to get the word out that "if you want a house, get a house." After the 2nd lottery ended, I server jumped to other primal servers and looked around... most servers still had unpurchased plots in the new non-FC wards.

I think the shortage is mostly on mediums and larges but not so much on housing in general. I think expecting to double housing is probably not necessary.

[ReynTime]

I can't speak for other servers, but my server is fairly populous and there were still available private plots (0 bids) at end of the second lottery when the new wards were added about a year ago.

I was informing people in various linkshells and Novice Network of ward/plot numbers that had 0 bids. There were dozens. I think maybe 1 person came and bid in the last 3 hours after I was trying to get the word out that "if you want a house, get a house." After the 2nd lottery ended, I server jumped to other primal servers and looked around... most servers still had unpurchased plots in the new non-FC wards.

I think the shortage is mostly on mediums and larges but not so much on housing in general. I think expecting to double housing is probably not necessary.

I've seen plots with no bids on Aether worlds fairly recently.

People complain about having no houses, but they don't just want any house. No... It has to be at least a medium, and it has to be in a fancy spot...

[PercibelTheren]

Even so, the medium and large plots will all be taken within a couple of rounds of the lottery.
And then we'll be back here complaining, again.

This makes me wonder why they don't just add more larges and mediums. In most housing wards I've seen, the larges and mediums are taken and it's almost always the smalls that are empty. Almost like a lot of people don't want them. And yet, there is this weird artificial scarcity on larger housing plots and nobody has yet been able to provide me with a good answer why it should stay like this.

[Hanayumi]

I believe they mentioned theyre finally looking into possible size changes to interior, if they make it so you can upgrade an apt to med or large it'll definitely help a ton, we'll see I guess...