Politics

[Palladiamors]

Well, all of our assumptions are only that. Wuk Lamat could be lying to us about outsiders being encouraged. Could be lying about the intent of her rivals. Could be lying about her own intent.

Now, that's not really XIV's soft serve, bouncy castle way these days, but it is not outside of the realm of possibility.

I'm not too worried about coming across as colonizers. We have no colony making efforts, and they mentioned this Super Secret Agent Prince Miqote who just so happened to seek a Sharlayan education for... reasons unexplained.

So I think in the end it'll come down to other factions getting eliminated, and Wuk Lamat taking up Sharlayan ideas maybe because Super Secret Agent Miqote brother implores her to after he's eliminated from the race.

Then all our different Scion factions will come together to beat the baddies. And everything will be hunkidori. Kumbaya.

Also though, it's something of a problem in this subforum for a lot of users to read someone's takes, and then write them off as trolls/bad faith etc. Simply for seeing the story in a different light. Ironically, it's also somewhat bad faith itself, because intent was presumed, and a step even further was taken in insulting or belittling the poster with aggravating takes. This is a public forum, so if you want to curate your experience, please use the ignore/block feature. It's not that hard. And yes, you'll still see quotes or boxes scrunching up their conversations, but you can't have your cake and eat it, too.

There was no belittling of Silvermoon. Cleretic simply pointed out that her takes are often divorced from reality. Zavos, on the other hand, straight up attacked Cleretic for pointing this out with zero prior knowledge of either poster and weaved an entire narrative around how Cleretic was ignorant. After that I merely pointed out that Zavos was morally grandstanding and acting superior while also having zero evidence to back anything up.

And here's the kicker: For all we know Wuk could wind up being the major villain of Dawntrail. But right now there is less than zero pointing to that. She's friends with Erenville and we trust him and while he doesn't want to admit to being close to her, he did tell her about us and help her find us. We know she's a blowhard, combat scares her even though she is very skilled. We know her county encourages their claimants to seek outside help and Erenville not refuting that while outright agreeing with her about mystery claimant X backs all that up. We know that we haven't agreed to help and we know two of the Scions are backing another candidate.

None of that in any way form or fashion points to colonization or installing a figurehead or starting a war. Actually pretty much most of it points to the opposite. Which I'm starting to realize is probably why modern day writers are moving away from subtlety.

[Lyth]

I think the bigger question in this debate is: 'So what?'

You wanted choice, and now you have it. If you want to forcibly create a textual reading where you head off to Tural as kingmaker and conqueror, all the power to you. All this sanctimonious moral posturing surely gets tiresome after a while. If you've spent the past story arc dreaming about being an Ascian edgelord, then surely this is the golden opportunity that you've always been waiting for. If this is meant to be a vacation, then let it be an evil vacation. Let it all out.

I'm personally disappointed that we only get to choose from four candidates. If I'm going to install a proxy dictator to rule over Tural in my stead, surely I should have a degree of choice in the matter. I'm personally leaning towards Ezel II.

If the flying pig is not an option, then at least let us re-glamour our chosen despot, like the custom delivery system allows. After all, who do you think dressed Aymeric up as a blue elephant in the first place?

I'm sorry, am I missing sarcasm here?

Irony, mixed with caricature. I'm only mad north-northwest. When the wind blows southerly, I can tell a hawk from a handsaw.

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Lore is a relatively small community, where some interpersonal interactions have developed over multiple years. You're observant to notice that it's unusual for someone to have such a strong opinion of someone with whom they've never interacted with before. If you watch closely, you'll also see that there's also a recurring trend to the target.