Okay they weren't lying about the relic

[Xirean]

That much we can agree on, although it's a different stance from what you held earlier. Now you're stating it firmly as your opinion, where as earlier you were clearly stating it as fact and you were attacking my statement by saying it was disingenuous.

I'm not sure why you assume I was saying anything as facts. What do I have to state " in my opinion" every time or something? I said a certain style of grind sucks because I think it sucks.

You haven't said anything new besides lightening your stance from fact to opinion. You've even added in some strange rhetoric of gatekeeping.

You asked me to back up my stance so I did. Unless you want me to link some sort of engagement metrics which would be a bit of a weird request.

While it's true that future proofing the relics is an issue, and that eventually with multiple more expansions worth of content Bozja and Eureka will most likely truly be dead when the playerbase spreads out even more, it currently isn't. There is no gatekeeping. If you want to partake in Bozja/Eureka related content to farm your relics then you still can. There is nothing stopping you. You have chosen to limit yourself, that is why you prefer tomes.

It actually still is gatekeeping. I did Eureka and Bozja when they came out and they sucked then to. They suck more now with less players. I was only a fan of the first zone of Eureka and everything else that came out of the exploratory zones just feels like needlessly punishing garbage with a side of watching Netflix while waiting for bosses to spawn. Eureka has no alternative and Bozja's alternatives are too specific, one of which requires content more dead then itself in the form of PotD.

I don't really think there's room for discussion here, unless you want to claim I'm being disingenuous again. You prefer the tome grind and being able to do whatever content you'd like. You seem to be scared to expose yourself to new and different forms of content and that's your choice.

Wrong again. I've tried quite a few different kinds of content in the game and I've come away with a perspective that certain ones just suck. Not to say that people can't enjoy them, but putting the relic behind that content makes it inaccessible and in my opinion the relic should be as accessible as possible.