Okay they weren't lying about the relic

[NekoMataMata]

We just have very different ideas of how the relic is meant to be; and what dead means in terms of content.

That much we can agree on, although it's a different stance from what you held earlier. Now you're stating it firmly as your opinion, where as earlier you were clearly stating it as fact and you were attacking my statement by saying it was disingenuous.

You assuming I can't provide more information as to why I prefer the EW relic obtainment system is pretty weird though. You know you can just ask instead of making assumptions right? In all seriousness though, tomes are great as they are accessible by the most amount of people and inherently future proofed as they don't rely on other system to keep them relevant. They are given out by basically every activity you can do in the game meaning the player has the most open choice of how to obtain their relic.

Anything that gatekeeps behind largely restrictive content is just annoying.

You haven't said anything new besides lightening your stance from fact to opinion. You've even added in some strange rhetoric of gatekeeping.

While it's true that future proofing the relics is an issue, and that eventually with multiple more expansions worth of content Bozja and Eureka will most likely truly be dead when the playerbase spreads out even more, it currently isn't. There is no gatekeeping. If you want to partake in Bozja/Eureka related content to farm your relics then you still can. There is nothing stopping you. You have chosen to limit yourself, that is why you prefer tomes.

I don't really think there's room for discussion here, unless you want to claim I'm being disingenuous again. You prefer the tome grind and being able to do whatever content you'd like. You seem to be scared to expose yourself to new and different forms of content and that's your choice.

I can’t wrap my head around the ”Anima being straight up poetic dump”-sentiment. That’s not telling the entire story.

Sure you need a chunk for Umbrites—around 4,500 to 5,000 poetic per weapon. Add Aether Oil bringing in more 1,750 needed. But do you really farm the rest needed items with poetic, too? Do you not strategize how you want to generate the crystal sands whether you use Moonstones, Scripts, etc? Do you not strategize how much Singing Clusters you want to get via poetic vs daily & weekly quest? Do you clear ‘light farm’ step with 1,500 tomes? Do you not try to manage different types of currencies?

This comes from a ShB baby who never experienced the grind in its inception day.

Same though. I did all the HW relics, and I remember doing weeklies for my clusters and fishing for my sands. I did dailies for Alexandrites for the ARR relics since I was sacrificing the zodiacs to skip the first stage of HW and doing them all at the same time. I even used the strategy guide provided by reddit for running multiple zodiacs at once, meaning that you took the quests for the second to last stage at the same time that you were running book dungeons.