Dear SE, Stop Treating Us Like We Are A Single Community

[strawberrycake]

lolwut? The two minute meta was the result of feedback from hardcore raiding parse goblins. It wasn't casuals complaining about raid buff timings.

No it was more casual players. One of the biggest issues was clearing really basic fights due to people not understanding how to start a rotation. I remember having to tell people not to use AoE's to start their rotations back in the day or people not understanding how tanks had a dps rotation and none dps rotation. Or DPS just outright not using buffs or not even having cross class buffs. A lot of which was an issue due to how much SE didn't want to give a proper tutorial to the new players back then and now.

[SieyaM]

No it was more casual players. One of the biggest issues was clearing really basic fights due to people not understanding how to start a rotation. I remember having to tell people not to use AoE's to start their rotations back in the day or people not understanding how tanks had a dps rotation and none dps rotation. Or DPS just outright not using buffs or not even having cross class buffs. A lot of which was an issue due to how much SE didn't want to give a proper tutorial to the new players back then and now.

I have a hard time believing this since no amount of low DPS would have caused any kind of wipe in regular content, only in Savage or up does this really become an issue where not using raid buffs or using them out of time would cause any problems. I also don't think anyone is really worried about openers in regular content.

[strawberrycake]

I have a hard time believing this since no amount of low DPS would have caused any kind of wipe in regular content, only in Savage or up does this really become an issue where not using raid buffs or using them out of time would cause any problems. I also don't think anyone is really worried about openers in regular content.

You assume wiping is the only way to lose my guy, we used to time out runs because people dead ass didn;t understand the game back in the day xD And with no cross DC and cross server, you just had to deal. And openers in the Sense of starting with An AoE, like I stated, is bad, Tanks not holding aggro and understanding what enmity is, is bad, which lead to time outs. And were a regular occurrence. This ofc has gotten better, around stormblood, but trusts has made it kinda poop again.

[SieyaM]

You assume wiping is the only way to lose my guy, we used to time out runs because people dead ass didn;t understand the game back in the day xD And with no cross DC and cross server, you just had to deal. And openers in the Sense of starting with An AoE, like I stated, is bad, Tanks not holding aggro and understanding what enmity is, is bad, which lead to time outs. And were a regular occurrence. This ofc has gotten better, around stormblood, but trusts has made it kinda poop again.

I have been playing since ARR and not once has a run ever timed out, maybe I am just extremely lucky but with all those years using the DF it has never happened. One of us is either having a non-typical experience or is just exaggerating for effect. Again using an AOE on single target would slow down the run sure, but not enough to run out a 90 minute timer, and I cannot remember a tank having so much trouble with enmity management that it caused continuous wipes to either, it is almost always a matter of reminding them to turn on stance.

Edit: I do remember one instance of a timer running out, it was Final Steps of Faith, before the nerf. I was WHM at the time and they made it impossible to heal since the arena was so large and mechanics made players spread to far too remain in range of the healer.

[strawberrycake]

I have been playing since ARR and not once has a run ever timed out, maybe I am just extremely lucky but with all those years using the DF it has never happened. One of us is either having a non-typical experience or is just exaggerating for effect. Again using an AOE on single target would slow down the run sure, but not enough to run out a 90 minute timer, and I cannot remember a tank having so much trouble with enmity management that it caused continuous wipes to either, it is almost always a matter of reminding them to turn on stance.

Edit: I do remember one instance of a timer running out, it was Final Steps of Faith, before the nerf. I was WHM at the time and they made it impossible to heal since the arena was so large and mechanics made players spread to far too remain in range of the healer.

I've also been playing since ARR, and the server I started on was Diabolos, which at one point was known as the one of if not the worst server in XIV prior to the new DC being made and people migrating around. And trust me I was I was exaggerating, but no, Diabolos was really that bad back in the day. xD