Okay they weren't lying about the relic

[Arlythe]

All this

Just to be clear, in case it didn't come through.
I do like grinds here and there. If they feel rewarding.
Bozja and Eureka didn't feel rewarding, because all it gave us was a shiny weapon and a slightly higher ilvl.

Ultimate/Mythic raiding is also a grind in some aspect. Beating hard bosses, overcoming trials in a group, that's rewarding.
I even found, in case you played back then, the argent tournament fun, because you had all those inbetween rewards and it did include enough mini games and group efforts to keep it entertaining.

But again, just stating my opinion, we don't have to agree.