Okay they weren't lying about the relic

[Solakor]

Please don't try to gaslight me. I even said, in this very thread, I enjoyed what I've done with Eureka and various other side content, I enjoy doing dungeons so even the ARR relic quests weren't a big deal. Again, I am still waiting to hear what is lost by not tying one specific thing to exploratory zones when there are still a ton of other rewards and reasons to play in these zones, so again what is lost? Why is the longer timesink the more reasonable choice for relics as opposed to just doing roulettes? Because again, the content isn't harder or more demanding in the way ultimates are, they're just more of a time sink.

Relics were meant to be timesinks and grindy from the start. It was always this way until EW. You can argue whatever you want but that is what they were meant to be.
In EW the devs decided to unmake the game from every last bit of mmorpg and dregs of previous designs to suit the zoomer mindset of 0 commitment and instant reward.
Will they do it again? Most likely because you can't go back now that they have done it once because the metrics are all that matters now and good and interesting design is not allowed