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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    You can't use Dissipation or Seraph while using Union, without cancelling Union, creating a 'soft lockout'. On the other hand, you are completely unable to use Union, Dissipation or Fey Blessing (???) while Seraph is out
    I see what you meant now. Yes, the capstone skills not being able to interact has been another issue that players have expressed throughout the years.

    I will say Fey Blessing kinda gets a pass with Seraph since you get Consolation, but that doesn't address the point of the other skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I see what you meant now. Yes, the capstone skills not being able to interact has been another issue that players have expressed throughout the years.

    I will say Fey Blessing kinda gets a pass with Seraph since you get Consolation, but that doesn't address the point of the other skills.
    Think of it like this... In ARR, Eos and Selene, despite having the same basic healing ability, Embrace, Eos was more focused on healing while Selene was more onto debuffing and draining MP and TP from your allies. . Having Eos out prevents you from using any of Selene's abilities, vice versa. Apply that towards having Seraph. As for the other abilities, it is more an indirect form of exclusivity. For instance, Aetherpact is forcing your pet to heal bomb a specific target, pretty much like a macro'ed Embrace+Adloquium of the olden times. Dissipation is just a way to give you a self buff to give more potent shielding and more stacks when the pet will not cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Think of it like this... In ARR, Eos and Selene, despite having the same basic healing ability, Embrace, Eos was more focused on healing while Selene was more onto debuffing and draining MP and TP from your allies. . Having Eos out prevents you from using any of Selene's abilities, vice versa. Apply that towards having Seraph. As for the other abilities, it is more an indirect form of exclusivity. For instance, Aetherpact is forcing your pet to heal bomb a specific target, pretty much like a macro'ed Embrace+Adloquium of the olden times. Dissipation is just a way to give you a self buff to give more potent shielding and more stacks when the pet will not cover.
    I hope this doesn't sound off, but why are you explaining the skills to me? I'm a Scholar. I've played the job since I started. I've been through every awkward change SE has put us through. God I miss my massive amount of DoTs, T.T
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I hope this doesn't sound off, but why are you explaining the skills to me? I'm a Scholar. I've played the job since I started. I've been through every awkward change SE has put us through. God I miss my massive amount of DoTs, T.T
    So am I. This was the first healer I picked up and fell in love with. I might show as a PLD but it doesn't change my leaning towards SCH as my preferred healer.

    The point I am trying to explain was how some of the so-called restrictive nature of the pet abilities you pointed out has been present through the years. Besides, these restrictions make sense. What I can argue is that I hate how we have a demi-summon when Rouse functionally serves the same purpose of buffing our pet (in this case, give temporary effects to the pet when Rouse is active) and not deal with the massive delay of waiting for the silly animation to play when Seraph appears and disappears.

    What I fear is that SCH will get reworked to get rid of the pet altogether and end up like SMN is at the moment.

    If you are missing the DoT management, I am missing being able to stay in Cleric Stance for extended periods of time while I manage my Aetherflow stacks for Lustrates (25% max HP healed, not the 600 potency one) and Rouse all while optimizing where I place my pet for Embrace/Whispering Dawn coverage.
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