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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    There is no need to do things "differently" though – that implies that something is happening a second time. There is only one moment in all of spacetime where G'raha makes his choice, and he chooses it for his own reasons, not because some distant observer is already aware of what he chose to do.

    Venat is no mastermind of fates; she simply considers the future that you describe to her and accepts to take her part in it. If anything, she is the one who has lost agency of her own future and can now only play the part that has been told to her.

    ...or perhaps she did struggle against her dictated fate, and she was able to act differently and split off a timeline that we will never see but the ancients are saved ultimately due to the warning we gave to Venat – but that can't happen without the original timeline still happening as well.
    G'raha chooses to do it because of every moment that led up to that moment. But the moments he's experiencing are being curated by a god aware of the future. Things are happening again and again because we're in a loop. We go to the past which prompts Venat to sunder the world and set up the Ascians to do the rejoinings, which leads to our creation, so we go back in time and tell her all this which prompts Venat to sunder the world.

    The only people with enough knowledge of what's going on to break the loop are Venat and the WoL and while the WoL has chosen inaction, Venat has chosen to do everything in her power to maintain the loop. G'raha will always make the same choices because he's unaware of the loop. The only people capable of making different choices are those aware of the loop and that's Venat and the WoL.

    Sure the WoL telling Themis and therefore the convocation about Meteion and Venat's plans to sunder the world *might* cause our timeline to end, which was a risk the people of G'raha's future were willing to take and commended for doing so. To plant seeds they'd never see grow. And both Shadowbringers and 6.5 taught me it's wrong to doom a world to save your own. Unless it's the Ancient world, I guess. Then it just can't be helped or changed or nothing. Just gotta accept the eradication of every man, woman and child without even clearing your throat and throwing a "by the way..." out there in an effort to help them.

    Traversing space and time when it comes to saving the WoL, but pimp shrugs when it comes to saving the Ancients.
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    Last edited by Lady_Silvermoon; 01-04-2024 at 02:28 PM.

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