Luckybancho census shows criterion savage was a complete and utter failure

[Shougun]

Wish you could solo the savage tier, of course it would be hard, but do able. Perhaps with Delves (WoW) coming as an active comparison we'll see that (which is going to have small group to solo dynamic scaling, as far as they said at least).

[Commander_Justitia]

just kidding. The reward structure just isn't there. Even the reward for non savage Criterion is lacking

There is glamour, there are minions, there are mounts, there are orchestrion scrolls and emotes and housing items. You have all the rewards the game has. I don't think they did bad on that, maybe they are not that great looking always, but generally it is there.

I think ilvl restrictions were unnecessary, only few people are savage raiders. It would have been better to make ilvl like they handled it in eureka and bozja, so gear wont matter. And maybe a tiny bit easier difficult wise, to fill a gap between savage and casual.

[Absurdity]

Wish you could solo the savage tier, of course it would be hard, but do able. Perhaps with Delves (WoW) coming as an active comparison we'll see that (which is going to have small group to solo dynamic scaling, as far as they said at least).

Which is why I liked the idea of Bozja's duels (even if they basically gave you no rewards besides bragging rights), the implementation on how you access them was just atrocious...I'm noticing a pattern here.

[Troxbark]

There is glamour, there are minions, there are mounts, there are orchestrion scrolls and emotes and housing items. You have all the rewards the game has. I don't think they did bad on that, maybe they are not that great looking always, but generally it is there.

No it's not, those are irrelevant items. No one is going to grind savage level content for those items and it clearly shows in how few people do it. They can triple all that loot and there would still be little to no incentive to do it.

[DPZ2]

Its fools who think people asked for harder content with no rewards.

Plenty of fools in the forums then, because the issue of rewards was never broached.

[OgruMogru]

No it's not, those are irrelevant items. No one is going to grind savage level content for those items and it clearly shows in how few people do it. They can triple all that loot and there would still be little to no incentive to do it.

I'm a slut for glam and still the only glam related content that would get me to bother with them is if it was the key to unlocking role restrictions. I'd hate it but I'd do it.

[Troxbark]

I'm a slut for glam and still the only glam related content that would get me to bother with them is if it was the key to unlocking role restrictions. I'd hate it but I'd do it.

You'd have 100% of the playerbase grinding through those bosses if that was the reward.

[OgruMogru]

You'd have 100% of the playerbase grinding through those bosses if that was the reward.

And we'd all be happier, more occupied AND look Fresh!

OHOHOH I have another - every clear of criterion savage lets you place an extra bit of furnishing past the housing item cap C:<

[Commander_Justitia]

No it's not, those are irrelevant items. No one is going to grind savage level content for those items and it clearly shows in how few people do it.

Why are they irrelevant? What items should they have implemented according to you?

Like I said, I think its hard getting into it. You basically cant play 2 of those criterion dungeons unless you have cleared recent savage. I think people will do it later more, when gear wont matter.

[Limecat]

Any content that you can't queue for in DF and have a reasonable expectation of both getting a group and clearing will be ignored by most of the player base.