We need to talk about the PC Gamer article

[sindriiisgaming]

Why are you here if you feel like you're getting little in return for your time and money?

What's being wasted is your money because you choose to do so.

We're here because this game is a master of edging. What they give you isn't genuinely aweful but it's not good either. It'd ALMOST good. And I think that's why ppl stay. Because this game can be good and we're just hoping it will be. But be assured many many will insub in dt if it isnt. As for myself. I'll be unsubbing in February if 6.55 produces nothing of substance. I'm not singing up for 6-9 months of no content. That's ludicrous

[sindriiisgaming]

this is sarcasm...................................right?

Nah its just good old yoshi-p indoctrination. She'll grow out of it eventually

[sindriiisgaming]

Leave this game full of wasted potential behind.

My fear is that they'll just kill the game off. Years of work and beloved characters just down the drain when it was entirely avoidable.

Also i want to praise you for understanding my feelings regarding savage rewarding. How it's all just meaningless achievements thanks to there questionable systems and lack of respect of players time

[SanibelIsland]

[sindriiisgaming]

The only one here were eating popcorn and laughing at are pll who like you keep bumping these threads just to say how much you don't enjoy the thread. Do you eat food you hate too?

[Oizen]

Think its less about the formula and more about the quality of Endwalker's content being mediocre, all feedback regarding it went completely ignored, and it was all just sorta left to rot.

It honestly feels like Endwalker's content was batch developed 3+ years ago in advance and they left the game in a maintenance mode while the development time went to other projects.

[SanibelIsland]

The only one here were eating popcorn and laughing at are pll who like you keep bumping these threads just to say how much you don't enjoy the thread. Do you eat food you hate too?

Excuse me, but where did I say, I didn't enjoy the thread ? Think you need to stop judging people, without any context. Same goes for that article and every other comment on the forum. Those are personal opninons. It's what people priorities in a game, what's in their interest. Articles are no different, it's always bias, because it's a personal observation. It's not a bad thing, but to take it at face value is.

[DrWho2010]

My fear is that they'll just kill the game off. Years of work and beloved characters just down the drain when it was entirely avoidable.

Also i want to praise you for understanding my feelings regarding savage rewarding. How it's all just meaningless achievements thanks to there questionable systems and lack of respect of players time

FFXI is still around after 20+ years. I don't think XIV is going anywhere.

Aw, so you can't flex and show off as much as you want to, booo hooo.

[Aword3213]

You cannot not be Anon here. So you think if I posted my dox I'd change my opinions? You think it would make any difference. I don't think I'd have much effort debating you in person over this and destroying any counter arguments in defence of ffxiv you had. Or even suggesting better content than you could.

Keep insulting anons. But the problem with assuming there intelligence is that you don't really know if you're right or not

That post wasn't about you, nor about FFXIV. I'm just allergic to the claim "people complain because they care" that's prevalant on the forum. No they don't. People on the internet will complain about anything, just for the sake of it.

I don't have any interest in debating you either, because you just chose to be the example of my previous reply. Enraged boss should be left alone. classic gaming strategy

[WetShoelace]

I disagree. I think the content is good for what the game is right now. The problem is really that there is no progression that makes you feel like anything is worth doing. XIV's approach to difficulty ends up being more like a grind if you're doing hard content than an enjoyable difficult boss fight like in a Team Ninja game where you do die in one or two hits but the active process of learning hit boxes, animations and the dynamic combat systems actually help you grow as a player. I guess there is an argument for discovery, but how many pieces of relevant content even have discovery? Four boss fights every other patch? Maybe an ultimate? Criterion?

You can't exactly outplay a boss in this game by being good at piloting your class. You just 'stand and let thing resolve' while doing your simplified rotation over and over and if everyone stood at the correct place and your healers topped off chances are the fight will go smooth until the end.

I want to commend the encounter designers because when you have a game as barebones and with combat as simple as XIV, making new combat content must be very difficult, and they do a good job.

All activities in this game are player and class agnostic, SE doesn't care what job you are, what gear you have or your skill level. And again, given the philosophy on the rest of the game's design, I wonder if they care too much or not at all. For a game that wants me to experience everything, I don't know why there are so many grinds and time wasting features that make it all a chore. Why does gear still exist? I'd much rather crafting and gathering take skill instead of a stat check.

Do you ever wonder why mounts have a cast bar? Because Blizzard made it that way? In WoW you can actually mount in dungeons and raids, so it makes sense. But in XIV you can't even mount in most places of relevancy.

Also, someone asked why I'm here, and it's because of the PC Gamer article, I'm not sure how to quote their post. I'm a dissatisfied player who wanted this game to grow instead of shrink. I think the article does a poor job at framing why XIV suddenly feels so bad. XIV has always been a mediocre RPG, but in other expansions pre-Shadowbringers, you had nuanced jobs where half of the fun was learning to properly play your class, so the lack of proper itemization and progression wasn't felt as much because there was actual skill involved on top of letting things resolve. There was an incentive for you to become invested in your job, and with different cooldown timers the mastery of learning when to use cooldowns was also part of the fun. Content was interesting that way too because it made your big buttons fluid rather than static.

But, again. Let's not ask Square Enix to be better, let's ask players to leave.