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  1. #51
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    To me the idea of a potion skip is horrible because it means that the leveling experience in FF14 is so bad you'd rather pay to not have to go through it.
    I've only bought potion skips twice.

    The first time was after an extended period of ill health and I fell really behind the rest of the FC. I wanted to play with my friends; so, I bought the skip potion so I could run the same content as my FC.

    The second time was for an alt; but, that turned out to be a mistake because I ended up not enjoying the ninja class. Oops.
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  2. #52
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    "you can either look terrible or you can shell up the money, you dont need to look good in the game you can just look terrible for free !"
    I've never bought anything from the shop except for a pack of fantasias, and my glams are fine.

    I swear, if hot takes were spices, yours would be flour.
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  3. #53
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    Tyra Jade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    As for the hroth/Viera thing when it comes to glam. That comes down to male/female only glam and they been making more and more equippable to either sex.
    The Hroth/Viera thing is that a significant number of the outfits sold that come with hats simply do not show those hats on Hrothgar and Viera. (My memory's not entirely clear, but I believe the explicit warning about that which is now on those outfits wasn't around at first, either, so people were buying outfits without ever being told that they simply wouldn't be able to use the hat.)

    But yeah, not related to gender-exclusive outfits, that is a separate issue.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    In addition, virtual items are just computer code. Ultimately, you are paying for something which doesn't exist in the real world. It should be cheaper since you are just adding a little bit of code to your virtual character.

    The work needs to only be done once. Afterwards, the company has the potential for to sell unlimited copies with no labor or material cost which means Square Enix is making 100% profit on cash shop items. In those conditions, does it really make sense to have items which cost $45.00 US Dollars?
    They charge that much because there are enough players willing to pay that much so going lower may end up resulting in less net profit. They are a for-profit publicly traded corporation. They have a duty to their shareholders to make reasonable attempts to maximize their profits.

    Even as a virtual item there are still some ongoing costs they have for support of the website, payment processing, customer support, etc. Certainly it's not $45 in expenses but once again: for-profit corporation. As long as enough people are willing to buy at the price, they're going to sell at that price. It's no different from any other for-profit business. I don't know why so many players act like game companies are non-profit organizations.

    If someone thinks an item is priced higher than reasonable, then they shouldn't buy the item. They won't die if they don't get it. That doesn't stop others from valuing the item differently and being willing to pay more (or having an overabundance of money so the price is immaterial to them).
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  5. #55
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    The shop items that trigger me are the old event cosmetics. It would be so unbelievably easy to just put the old items on a vendor that is available during the event, but noooo then they couldn't milk new players for money.
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  6. #56
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Even if one single content piece only gets one reward attached to it and no future updates, content as a whole is regularly having more rewards added, far more than what goes on the cash shop. There are loads in Island Sanctuary, there's the one from Tataru's questline, three new PVP outfits, four from Variants, regular glamour-from-maps and all the endgame gear as well.

    They're not going to keep adding new rewards to the individual piece of content though. Everything just gets whatever it gets when it's released, and those are the rewards permanently.
    Each variant has it's own glamour set, so one for each dungeon. Aside from the orchestration and an emote that is all there is for rewards, and by the time you run it to get all 12 journal entries you have more than enough for those things and might have to run a few more times to get the glamour if you want them. The point being that this could have been a much more engaging and long running piece of content that is instead dumped out and forgotten about in nearly the same week. Meanwhile the cash shop is continually receiving new items as well as having the catalog of previous items. If they designed any kind of content with that kind of longevity in mind then we would be much happier with some of it. As it is there really is no reason to get too excited about anything that is released because it is completely forgotten about in a matter of weeks if it isn't part of the roulette.
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  7. #57
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    The point being that this could have been a much more engaging and long running piece of content that is instead dumped out and forgotten about in nearly the same week. Meanwhile the cash shop is continually receiving new items as well as having the catalog of previous items.
    I wouldn't want the variant dungeons to be artificially drawn out by having to grind them further for loot. They were enjoyable as one-shot content but I absolutely do not want to be made to do it additional times beyond that.

    And again, you are comparing the entire ongoing existence of the cash shop to the not-ongoing, one-patch existence of a single piece of content.

    The thing to compare to the cash shop as a whole is in-game rewards as a whole, which continues to introduce new items at a higher rate than the shop.
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  8. #58
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I wouldn't want the variant dungeons to be artificially drawn out by having to grind them further for loot. They were enjoyable as one-shot content but I absolutely do not want to be made to do it additional times beyond that.

    And again, you are comparing the entire ongoing existence of the cash shop to the not-ongoing, one-patch existence of a single piece of content.

    The thing to compare to the cash shop as a whole is in-game rewards as a whole, which continues to introduce new items at a higher rate than the shop.
    Please keep defending the fact we barely get anything in the game while the cash shop keeps getting updates every few weeks, its entertaining
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  9. #59
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Please keep defending the fact we barely get anything in the game while the cash shop keeps getting updates every few weeks, its entertaining

    They add the stuff in during patches. Its not really getting updated every few weeks.

    Also "barely anything in game" is a flat out lie. The cash shop is so small compared to what is available in game lol.


    Tho, maybe it seems like it gets more stuff if you don't actually play the game.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 12-20-2023 at 12:12 PM.

  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They add the stuff in during patches. Its not really getting updated every few weeks.

    Also "barely anything in game" is a flat out lie. The cash shop is so small compared to what is available in game lol.


    Tho, maybe it seems like it gets more stuff if you don't actually play the game.
    Most stuff that is added to game requires a patch if you want to be technical about it, though I dont really recall there being a major patch 5 days ago when the emote "Joyous Leaping" was introduced. Does the Christmas event count as patch?

    Patch 6.51 was released on October 31st, I think? Since then we've had:
    November 20 - Emote: Eat Pizza, and Pepperoni Pizza Set
    December 15 - Authentic Illuminated Tree, Mount: Starlight Steed (Single Character), and Emote: Joyous Leaping
    December 28 - Heavensturn Attire, Authentic Heavensturn Crane Banner
    Skimming through the news tracker on the Lodestone, most major patches usually have at least 1 update afterwards for optional items, but thats not really at the same time as a patch is released. Maybe I'll try to make a timeline sometime for when optional items get added and when patches come out.
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    Last edited by KenZentra; 12-30-2023 at 03:03 AM.

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