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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    Your heart is in the right place but I feel inclined to beg you not to reward someone who's abusing their neighbors and making a general fool of themselves with millions upon millions of gil for doing so.
    As much as I disagree with Impia on a lot of other topics, I agree with them in this case

    Do not reward Anjou for their behavior please, they will do this somewhere else, people like that are just here to ruin it for everyone and will find another excuse to do the same in a different place, maybe it'll be a tree this time that's in their view, or a deck that they wont be happy with, they will find something I promise you.

    The entire ward should just ignore them at this point, but do not reward them please, people like that should be ignored, not encouraged with what is basically free gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    As much as I disagree with Impia on a lot of other topics, I agree with them in this case

    Do not reward Anjou for their behavior please, they will do this somewhere else, people like that are just here to ruin it for everyone and will find another excuse to do the same in a different place, maybe it'll be a tree this time that's in their view, or a deck that they wont be happy with, they will find something I promise you.

    The entire ward should just ignore them at this point, but do not reward them please, people like that should be ignored, not encouraged with what is basically free gil.


    It's definitely not my intention to reward them. I was thinking more along the lines of brightening everyone's holiday season. Peace on Eorzea, goodwill towards Miqo'te, kind of.

    My hope is to help everyone involved find a solution. Put a little joy in the lives of others, especially since this seems to affect so many players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyssa View Post
    It's definitely not my intention to reward them. I was thinking more along the lines of brightening everyone's holiday season. Peace on Eorzea, goodwill towards Miqo'te, kind of.

    My hope is to help everyone involved find a solution. Put a little joy in the lives of others, especially since this seems to affect so many players.
    Which is a nice thought but even if Anjou accepted the gil and was able to move, what about the new neighbors who would then be subjected to Anjou's whims? Problems rarely get solved by shuffling them to a new location.

    I visited the ward again earlier in the week. The change is very noticeable. This is the view from the rock in OP's screenshot that is not even part of their plot.

    You're not going to see that level of support for someone if they're the problem instead of the target of harassment.


    Here is the best view I could get from the OP's actual plot while standing on the ground. Just about anywhere else and the fence along with their other outdoor decorations almost completely block the view of anything outside of their plot.




    Considering OP is looking for a view of the ocean and Lighthouse, and they prefer to leave their plot to get it, all they need to do is go up the stairs next to their plot then a short distance up the path to the nearby hot springs. There's a small greenspace with another rock to sit on that offers this view:


    They don't have to look at the house of the FC they're complaining about and they have a clear view of the Lighthouse.

    It's also rather strange that other members of Anjou's FC haven't appeared to offer their version of events despite members of other FCs in the ward sharing what they've experienced.

    Short Tempered, indeed. A sign that any acts of charity will be wasted in the long run.
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    Thanks for all of that info, Jojoya. Wow, that is a lot to take in. There is a veritable sea of gingerbread houses, namazu and HoH's.

    This is an FC, huh? I wasn't sure it was, perhaps OP is the only member (alts in it maybe?)? Has anyone spoken to the other members?

    That location is close to the area my son has his small:




    There are many places to go where you can sit and enjoy a lovely view of the lighthouse.. right next to the spot where his house sits is a great little place:




    I wish Anjou would try to make peace with her ward-mates and perhaps think about squashing all of this. I do worry that asking her to move would probably create a whole new set of issues and I certainly don't want that happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyssa View Post
    Thanks for all of that info, Jojoya. Wow, that is a lot to take in. There is a veritable sea of gingerbread houses, namazu and HoH's.

    This is an FC, huh? I wasn't sure it was, perhaps OP is the only member (alts in it maybe?)? Has anyone spoken to the other members?

    That location is close to the area my son has his small:




    There are many places to go where you can sit and enjoy a lovely view of the lighthouse.. right next to the spot where his house sits is a great little place:




    I wish Anjou would try to make peace with her ward-mates and perhaps think about squashing all of this. I do worry that asking her to move would probably create a whole new set of issues and I certainly don't want that happen.
    Other people in that ward have spoken up but their posts have been mysteriously disappeared. Probably because OP didn't like that their narrative was being challenged so reported it.

    Some of her guestbook entries in other FC houses were just as rude. One where they said they didn't like the gingerbread house but at least it didn't have towers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You're not going to see that level of support for someone if they're the problem instead of the target of harassment.
    I don't agree with this. It's very, very easy for communities to gang up on what they perceive to be an amusing, easy and/ or "acceptable" target if they're so inclined. Never underestimate the power of cliques and playground mentalities, they can and do form pretty much everywhere.

    Which isn't to say OP has handled this well at all or hasn't instigated the backlash for the most part, but I'm hesitant to heap all of the blame on them for reacting to what was an obvious goad. No one sticks up HoH towers around their plot like that unless they're getting some kind of kick out of being as obnoxious and obstructive as possible to their neighbours - especially if they've gone to the trouble of floating them - and I'm not taking it at face value that they're "lovely" when people like that frequently make a habit of riling other people up then feigning ignorance when other parties get involved. I'm not excusing the tantrums, but I get the frustration and it feels like an "ESH" moment here over one side being solely at fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    No one sticks up HoH towers around their plot like that unless they're getting some kind of kick out of being as obnoxious and obstructive as possible to their neighbours - especially if they've gone to the trouble of floating them - and I'm not taking it at face value that they're "lovely" when people like that frequently make a habit of riling other people up then feigning ignorance when other parties get involved.
    I disagree. There are so many great builds that can use HoH towers. Why limit people's creativity? Fortresses, castles, or maybe a free company wants to set up a climbing competition. No one has the right to tell anyone how they decorate their yard besides SE. Let people go wild and use their imaginations. I visited several houses in the neighborhood. It was lively, active, and the people were friendly. I doubt they're going out of their way to be yelled at, slapped, and harassed by their neighbor. If the OP wants a better view, bid on a better plot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    I disagree. There are so many great builds that can use HoH towers. Why limit people's creativity? Fortresses, castles, or maybe a free company wants to set up a climbing competition. No one has the right to tell anyone how they decorate their yard besides SE.
    I wouldn't say there's a whole lot of creativity going on in the picture the OP offered, it looks like smacking down as many as they can like people do Namazu Effigies to be as loud as possible.

    Other people don't have any power to stop them, no, but there's also nothing to prevent them from complaining about it or the basic reality that it makes you look like an ass for doing so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Their house their decorations.

    Period.
    You've literally already conceded it's poor behaviour in your first post here, so go argue with your reflection if you're spoiling for yet another pointless fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Other people don't have any power to stop them, no, but there's also nothing to prevent them from complaining about it or the basic reality that it makes you look like an ass for doing so.
    They don't look like an an ass though. Their neighbors besides OP don't think so either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I don't agree with this. It's very, very easy for communities to gang up on what they perceive to be an amusing, easy and/ or "acceptable" target if they're so inclined. Never underestimate the power of cliques and playground mentalities, they can and do form pretty much everywhere.

    Which isn't to say OP has handled this well at all or hasn't instigated the backlash for the most part, but I'm hesitant to heap all of the blame on them for reacting to what was an obvious goad. No one sticks up HoH towers around their plot like that unless they're getting some kind of kick out of being as obnoxious and obstructive as possible to their neighbours - especially if they've gone to the trouble of floating them - and I'm not taking it at face value that they're "lovely" when people like that frequently make a habit of riling other people up then feigning ignorance when other parties get involved. I'm not excusing the tantrums, but I get the frustration and it feels like an "ESH" moment here over one side being solely at fault.
    Their house their decorations.

    Period.
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