SE. Please. Ilv sync everything.

[Mikey_R]

it does none of that and you are right it's not about you that's why we dont have as many ilvl syncs as some players want and we can ilvl cheese fights skill isn't important people playing is.

But you can still out ilevel fights without having to resort to expansion cap.

Take the latest raid for example. P9-12, does anyone complain about the difficulty of those fights despite the fact most of the population don't even have the ilevel to cap it?

As for dungeons, some already do have a cap, but they aren't hard by any stretch of the imagination.

Noone is saying to make the ilevel so tight that the fights are really hard and difficult, just bring the ilevel down so that the fights can have some bite back, even just bringing raid fights down to the max ilevel of that patch of the expansion. As an example, I am going to use A4, entry ilevel is 565 but max ilevel for that patch was 600 (605 for weapon). That is still 40 ilevels between minimum and max which is a huge jump in stats already.

Nothing about this is going to stop people from clearing, unless you think players are so bad they need a 100 ilevel difference between minimum and max in order to clear.

[Greyhawk]

Not in even the slightest. My mind is on what's healthy for the game and enhancing the player experience. Not rewarding veterans for performing on a braindead level of gameplay.

Then to be fair, veterans should not be 'forced' into a place they don't want to be in the first place for a roulette. There is no option in a roulette to opt out of certain raids - ones which we have been repeatedly thrown into time and again. So much in fact, developers have tried to put a stop to that ilvl exploit (yes an exploit to force a CT raid in a roulette) which doesn't even today seem to be working. We're still being put into these raids far too often than not.

I don't mind doing these lower raids every so often, but I want more often than not, more of the OTHER raids which I've not been getting. I have to be forced into picking specific raids and missing out on the daily roulette rewards (if you wish to call them that) if I don't want to be thrown yet again into (yet another) CT raid. I stopped doing the Alliance raid roulette altogether because of the constant CT trash forcing us into nothing but that by stripping down their character. It got old and tiresome. After this apparent 'change', I've not seen anything different after retrying the roulette - it's CT after f-in CT. So, if they want help, they can change the reward as far as I'm concerned. I'm back to yet again opting out of doing the roulette, because nothing changed after their 'fix'.

[AmiableApkallu]

Hence, the whole suggestion of restricting the maximum ilv allowed for duties. Particularly level cap duties. Leveling dungeons and trials don't really have this problem.

My understanding is that leveling dungeons and trials don't have this problem because there's a max item level for each character level, so the character level sync in that content implicitly syncs your item level.

As for level cap duties, I'd like to see it so that they have an item level sync that corresponds to the maximum attainable item level when the duty was originally released.

[Stormpeaks]

Then remove leveling entirely.

Until then no.

[Jeeqbit]

My understanding is that leveling dungeons and trials don't have this problem because there's a max item level for each character level, so the character level sync in that content implicitly syncs your item level.

Yes, their is an item level associated with each level and it goes up by only 3 every level, until the max level, where it jumps up a lot once the expansion is old, to the final tier item level, making most max level content overly easy. You are often still 40 item levels higher than the final tier content as well.

As for level cap duties, I'd like to see it so that they have an item level sync that corresponds to the maximum attainable item level when the duty was originally released.

That would help but it's not necessarily good enough. When content is current, you get a mix of people in crafted gear and people in max item level gear from raiding, whereas once it's old, everyone syncs to that max item level, making it much more trivial than it used to be. Syncing to somewhere between that or minimum would be better for that reason.

[Kranel_San]

I'd agree to Ilvl syncing the last bosses of expansions, but that's only to give them an additional layer of epicness, immersion, and difficulty that the last bosses should be worthy of. However, anything else should not have an Ilvl sync because that would completely kill the sense of getting better gear in order to become stronger. What would be the point of getting 10+ ilvl gear if the boss or the dungeon would remain the exact same to me? I need to feel the difference, to know that I got better, stronger, and faster. The game should reward you for getting better, not just "Get ilvl to access X instance".

[Darkobra]

And are you also thinking the rewards for roulettes should go up to account for the increased length/complexity of the roulettes?

What rewards? Gold we don't spend, experience we don't need or tomes we don't use?

[Jeeqbit]

anything else should not have an Ilvl sync because that would completely kill the sense of getting better gear in order to become stronger.

It would, when the expansion is current.

When the expansion is old, any new player with a veteran friend or in an FC with a veteran player will be told to get poetic gear and instantly be max item level, making this irrelevant for old expansions.

That is why old expansions should have their item level syncs re-evaluated or applied. Gear progression is important, but only for the latest expansion. For old expansions, many of us just want new players to experience it as we once did, and for it not to be braindead.

Even if someone wants to argue "people only do it because it's braindead", they still do the leveling dungeons which have tighter syncs, so it would be fine.

[Boblawblah]

many of us just want new players to experience it as we once did

Why? Do you imagine that the majority if new players play through old instanced content and think "Man, this is just too braindead, I want more obtuse mechanics that aren't explained/intuitive and I get through the content only because the vast majority of the vets have done this a thousand times."?

and for it not to be braindead.

Do you think that forcing people to do all the mechanics in the CT raids will make it less braindead than it is now for more than a month?

[Rolder50]

Then to be fair, veterans should not be 'forced' into a place they don't want to be in the first place for a roulette. There is no option in a roulette to opt out of certain raids - ones which we have been repeatedly thrown into time and again. So much in fact, developers have tried to put a stop to that ilvl exploit (yes an exploit to force a CT raid in a roulette) which doesn't even today seem to be working. We're still being put into these raids far too often than not.

I don't mind doing these lower raids every so often, but I want more often than not, more of the OTHER raids which I've not been getting. I have to be forced into picking specific raids and missing out on the daily roulette rewards (if you wish to call them that) if I don't want to be thrown yet again into (yet another) CT raid. I stopped doing the Alliance raid roulette altogether because of the constant CT trash forcing us into nothing but that by stripping down their character. It got old and tiresome. After this apparent 'change', I've not seen anything different after retrying the roulette - it's CT after f-in CT. So, if they want help, they can change the reward as far as I'm concerned. I'm back to yet again opting out of doing the roulette, because nothing changed after their 'fix'.

I mean, you could just not do the roulette. Then you wouldn't be forced into anything!