That's fair honestly, I don't have huge interest in Ruin II as it is currently, and yeah Toxikon is a letdown, but I don't hate the general ideas that they offer, they just need refining (lots of refining in the case of Toxikon).I'm not sure I'd describe myself as happy they exist. Toxikon is insulting to me, because it's what I think the designers thought would make Sage satisfactory to the collection of players who were complaining in Shadowbringers. And Ruin II has been disappointing for ages, and its use cases are hanging on by a thread as of EW because of the 1.5 second cast time. If they got sliced off as well, it wouldn't make me anymore unhappy with healers than I already am.
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