/r/ffxivdiscussion Reddit Poll: Do you want anti-cheat in FFXIV?

[Zeastria]

Yet all MMOS games with "anti cheat" in them still suffer from cheaters all the same
- its just a huge waste of money!
Better spend that money on hiring more gms
and improved ways to report cheaters!

[Darkobra]

I’ve yet to see any anti cheat that works for all these years.

The best it can do is block amateur CE script written by a guy who just watched a 5 minute tutorial on YouTube.

Entirely this, and going by Square's history, they're not going to crack it either.

[Swordsman]

Why would they remove their free pool of QOL ideas and unpaid work force putting hats and extra hairs on viera/hroth?

Lmao, true. Why expend funds and man-hours when they can crowdsource the work by getting a bunch of unpaid volunteers to do it for them? Its ingenious.

[Gemina]

If the devs fixed their game, there would be no need for an anti cheat because people would use fewer addons.

I am going to go ahead and ask you to provide an explanation on how this addon 'fixes' any of the issues going on with the game's infrastructure?



The only thing I fault the devs for is tying a pretty significant achievement to a timed event. This was, for the lack of a better word, stupid. It unquestionably would goad players to exploit a flaw or cheat. It doesn't excuse it, and it makes the achievement hallow for anyone who obtains it using the addon. In any case, the misgivings from the dev team does not pardon misconduct from the playerbase. Wholesome players recognize the unfair advantage, and stay away from tools that provide them.

[Stormpeaks]

I am going to go ahead and ask you to provide an explanation on how this addon 'fixes' any of the issues going on with the game's infrastructure?



The only thing I fault the devs for is tying a pretty significant achievement to a timed event. This was, for the lack of a better word, stupid. It unquestionably would goad players to exploit a flaw or cheat. It doesn't excuse it, and it makes the achievement hallow for anyone who obtains it using the addon. In any case, the misgivings from the dev team does not pardon misconduct from the playerbase. Wholesome players recognize the unfair advantage, and stay away from tools that provide them.

https://i.imgur.com/XhEvZJX.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/RrJvV1o.mp4



I can do that too.

So where's the fix from SE ?

[Gemina]

https://i.imgur.com/XhEvZJX.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/RrJvV1o.mp4



I can do that too.

So where's the fix from SE ?

You're not doing anything. Your links simply shows the jank, which everyone has to deal with. If real time physics matters to you, then you should also ask the devs to stop making our WoLs fall distances that would otherwise kill them.

[Raraka]

If they fixed the server snapshotting jank

Added more language options

Added all the QoL (not convenience) things that plugins offer

And, added hats for viera and hroth




Then I would still be against an anti-cheat. I genuinely cannot care if someone else is cheating in XIV

I got to 15 wins before the cheating thing was brought to light, and I stopped bothering for the title because it was clear people will think anyone with it, is a cheater

Should they have anti-cheat?, no. Should they have stronger moderation?, yes. Should the game be drastically improved to deter "cheat-like" tools and plugins?, Absolutely yes

Remember the Gaols example from earlier in the thread?, they could add the crystal markers from E4, blue, yellow and red to the people with the gaols, and the mechanic could be easily solved without Auto-markers

[Reinha]

Your links simply shows the jank, which everyone has to deal with.

Well, not everyone. The cheaters don't have to deal with it. That's why they cheat.

And I wasn't talking just about the fall guys event which I already gave up on. I meant things like invisible Hrothgar hats, how the cursor defaults to "no" when turning in HQ gear, how you can't see the timer for housing lottery in the timers menu, how the chat scrolls down when you're trying to read something further up and how that achievements nearing completion pop up and workshop cutscenes still can't be disabled. Oh, and the ping-based prolonged animation lock that's been a problem for the entire history of the game is still there.

It doesn't take much thought to figure out why someone would download a mod when there is a metric ton of jank that shouldn't be in the game. If the jank was gone, there would be fewer reasons to cheat. The devs said as much when they started to fix some of it.

[NanaWiloh]

PSA People cheat to get and advantage over others or bypass annoyance with the game. QOL will not do jack diddly F'n squat to stop such behavior.

[LittleImp]

PSA People cheat to get and advantage over others or bypass annoyance with the game. QOL will not do jack diddly F'n squat to stop such behavior.

Some people rationalize their cheating by trying to spin it as if their cheating is simply making up for some flaw in the design of the game, thus the 'QoL' comments.

I saw someone characterizing auto-marker (a plugin which automatically solves mechanics in Ultimates/Savage like Titan Gaols or Dynamis jumps) as 'QoL' and felt like I was losing my mind. Like, I guess in a way cheating can improve the quality of someone's life? lol.