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    Player
    BaconBits's Avatar
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    I would love to see them shut down all modding so I can watch the chaos that unfolds. It would be truly glorious.
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    Khloe Stardew
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    Siren
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    while reddit polls make me laugh and the ffxiv subreddit is a joke at best. the best solution is to end the wrist slaps that SE does and just flat out perma ban people that cheat simple as that.
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    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsMisato View Post
    while reddit polls make me laugh and the ffxiv subreddit is a joke at best. the best solution is to end the wrist slaps that SE does and just flat out perma ban people that cheat simple as that.
    All of reddit is a joke. A place where people hide behind overbearing modding so their feelings are salvaged. I spend most of my time on reddit seeing how much negative karma I can accumulate.
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    All of reddit is a joke. A place where people hide behind overbearing modding so their feelings are salvaged. I spend most of my time on reddit seeing how much negative karma I can accumulate.
    Reddit is a joke
    Official forums are a joke

    The entire player base are just idiots who have wrong opinions

    /s
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    Darkobra Kage
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    All of reddit is a joke. A place where people hide behind overbearing modding so their feelings are salvaged. I spend most of my time on reddit seeing how much negative karma I can accumulate.
    If these forums were as moderated as Reddit, do you think you'd be getting away with openly insulting people?
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    Nope.

    Also this topic is like a dead horse at this point, stop beating it lol
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    I have to say people may not understand Yoshi-P or this dev team as well as they think they might if people believe it's 'Fall Guys' that would be the final nail. They would have done something a very VERY long time ago if they thought a anti-cheat measure was absolutely essential, and it would have been over something related to World First races or PvP/Feast Seasons.
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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    I have to say people may not understand Yoshi-P or this dev team as well as they think they might if people believe it's 'Fall Guys' that would be the final nail. They would have done something a very VERY long time ago if they thought a anti-cheat measure was absolutely essential, and it would have been over something related to World First races or PvP/Feast Seasons.
    Every single drama that happens will be the end of mods according to this forum, yet it never happens

    I wonder why

    Hmmmm
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    I see zero point in anti cheats if strict penalties are not going to be enforced. Strict penalties IS the anti cheat. If you give players a feeling of FAFO by implementing no tolerance for cheating, and show that you will not only ban accounts for violating the ToS in general, but actually outright delete characters for cheating you will get completely different behavior from these players.

    Cheating, put simply, destroys the integrity of the game. In no world is this worth the handful of subs that follow the accounts that are eliminated. And in all honesty, that's just the trash taking itself out.
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Goblin
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    Find it funny that people will point at some mods having 1 million downloads and claim, "see! everyone uses it!" then are magically able to deduce that FFXIV having 27 million accounts, doesn't mean that 27 million people are playing.

    If I had to guess, I'd say around 5% of the active playerbase uses mods of any kind. This is mostly based on studies that have shown your average online gamer is very inactive in regard to seeking out additional information about the game, outside of the game itself. That your average online gamer, plays 1-8 hours a week, isn't on any online discussion platforms for the game, and isn't looking up videos for the game, and isn't looking up guides or strategies for the game.

    There are many reports that repeat this similar result, such as this Forbes article. With the funny part being, that most of these articles are shocked by how much this is an increase in average gaming time compared to a decade ago.

    So yea, while I'm on the side of letting players mod if they want, though maybe lockdown the API a bit to not make them trivialize content, or worse, become required for doing content. I also believe that if SE or XIV did find a way to lockdown mods, it wouldn't be the end of the game, not even close.
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