Personal thoughts about Fall Guys achievement

[Ryotsune]

Yeah, but the point is about achievement progression and how a flawed game design can ruin the fun/make the farm difficult, thus this Seal Rock example. I sincerly think people wouldn't complain as much if there wasn't any reason to win. Also, CR, Verminion & TT does have a different win ratio, respectively of 1/8 and 1/2, better than 1/24.

That's why i prefer Onsal Hakair over Seal Rock, it's because they didn't include any goal, just participating/winning on this map. And it's more than enough to enjoy PVP & Frontlines.

[Tsumdere]

Yeah, but the point is about achievement progression and how a flawed game design can ruin the fun/make the farm difficult, thus this Seal Rock example. I sincerly think people wouldn't complain as much if there wasn't any reason to win. Also, CR, Verminion & TT does have a different win ratio, respectively of 1/8 and 1/2, better than 1/24.

That's why i prefer Onsal Hakair over Seal Rock, it's because they didn't include any goal, just participating/winning on this map. And it's more than enough to enjoy PVP & Frontlines.

I'm confused over this statement. Just like Seal Rock, there is achievements and rewards you can only get through winning in Onsal.
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Construct_VII_(Mount)

It is entirely possible to win and work on this achievement even if the netcode sucks. I won twice in the one session I've played.
The event is here for months. You don't need <Queen Bean> right this very second, just like you don't need the Seal Rock coat or Onsal mount right this very second.
Long term goals are good and keep the mode alive. 100 Participation rounds would have been achieved by pretty much everyone at this point except those who are exceptionally bad. You would only need 50 matches if you qualified the first two rounds, which would take less than 4 hours. That's terrible to keep the mode alive.

For example, I would have no reason to go back since I would already have all rewards and the title after 1 night of playing.

[Ryotsune]

Sorry for the confusion. The point is, having a map where you don't have to think about anything than play and potentially win is more healthy imo.

And even if you have achievement like this former frontline map with drones, killing drones is counted for everybody participating to the assault. That's the difference between Onsal & Seal Rock.

Also, i agree about the participation thing but it's still an event. And as i said, SE is used to propose event with short-term investment. After, you're free to keep playing freely or not, depending of your time. The thing you enjoy the most is the ones you don't have to think about it because you're focused on having a good time, even if you don't win

[RyveSontek]

IMO 50 wins for this would already be an insane achievement, but they went with 100...what were they thinking?

10, 20, 50, 100, 1000
People who are bad at it won't get it. I think we can agree on that.

On the other hand, with 100 wins achievement.
People who are good at it can get it fairly quickly.
People who are decent will take more time, but will get it in due time.
The event is available for 2 months and will return.
So I don't see an issue with it being 100 wins.

[RyveSontek]

agree to disagree

I'm trying to explain what they were thinking.
Or at least what I think they were thinking.
If you want to disagree, feel free to take a shot at what they were thinking instead. XD

[Malakii]

10, 20, 50, 100, 1000
People who are bad at it won't get it. I think we can agree on that.

On the other hand, with 100 wins achievement.
People who are good at it can get it fairly quickly.
People who are decent will take more time, but will get it in due time.
The event is available for 2 months and will return.
So I don't see an issue with it being 100 wins.

The issue I see with it is this is the way they do all their achievements basically and it's just boring and lazy. Do x amount of this task over and over. I would be much happier with x10 over x100, but it would still be a boring and lazy implementation of the achievement. They could have implemented achievements based on speedrunning, no obstacles hit, using a hammer or other obstacle to phase you through typhoon's breath on map 2, or having to do each path color railing path and still qualify. I mean just something different than the same thing for everything. I just think their current implementation of achievements doesn't give you the satisfaction that achievements should give you. Like I find it hard to believe that people are excited to do 100 wins of this event. There are 2 maps for stage 1, 2 maps for stage 2, and 1 for stage 3. It's not a lot of variety and if you understand the final map what is the point of doing it 100 times? It turns something that should be fun into thank god that I am done with it so I don't have to do this shit anymore. I get this is just my opinion and some may disagree but all these kinds of achievements just make me want to quit playing and go play something else and I think that is a problem.