Personal thoughts about Fall Guys achievement

[Ryotsune]

Sorry for the confusion. The point is, having a map where you don't have to think about anything than play and potentially win is more healthy imo.

And even if you have achievement like this former frontline map with drones, killing drones is counted for everybody participating to the assault. That's the difference between Onsal & Seal Rock.

Also, i agree about the participation thing but it's still an event. And as i said, SE is used to propose event with short-term investment. After, you're free to keep playing freely or not, depending of your time. The thing you enjoy the most is the ones you don't have to think about it because you're focused on having a good time, even if you don't win

[CidHeiral]

If the associated reward was a mount or gear or an emote or something, I would probably be critical of this achievement. However, the reward is just a title that lets everyone know you did the thing. And what's the thing? Getting 100 wins. It's there for people who are super hardcore for this event, and if that's not you, that's fine.

There are plenty of titles in the game that I will never get because they require doing an amount of something that I don't want to do. And that's fine. Different strokes for different folks. I hope the people who enjoy doing those things more than I do enjoy their titles, just as I'll enjoy seeing them with their titles.

My earnest advice: if the prospect of getting 100 wins for this title fills you with negative feelings, don't chase it. This is not a thing you need. Accept that you're not going to get it and move on. And then when you see someone with the title Queen Bean, you can think to yourself, "Wow, that player was really hardcore for Fall Guys!"

This is the correct take.

The 100 wins achievement is meant to be farmed over a long period of time, similar to the 1000 S Rank kills hunt achievement. You can work toward both casually or no life grind them, but if you choose the latter and are miserable you only have yourself to blame.

[RyveSontek]

I don't know how much I like putting the blame with SE for people being unable to enjoy an event just because there's a hard or grindy achievement linked to it.
I have thoroughly enjoyed the event. I started winning a lot and was one of the very first people with King/Queen Bean. And now I still play it because I enjoy the content so much.
So, how much is it truly SE that should have done things different with the achievement and not the people that can't see the trees in the forest anymore.

[RyveSontek]

IMO 50 wins for this would already be an insane achievement, but they went with 100...what were they thinking?

10, 20, 50, 100, 1000
People who are bad at it won't get it. I think we can agree on that.

On the other hand, with 100 wins achievement.
People who are good at it can get it fairly quickly.
People who are decent will take more time, but will get it in due time.
The event is available for 2 months and will return.
So I don't see an issue with it being 100 wins.

[RyveSontek]

agree to disagree

I'm trying to explain what they were thinking.
Or at least what I think they were thinking.
If you want to disagree, feel free to take a shot at what they were thinking instead. XD

[RyveSontek]

It is indeed what I think they were thinking. As I said.
I just thought I'd give my thoughts as someone who got the title really quickly.
And I got it quickly because I just enjoy the content a lot and played it a lot.
Am now still playing it because I like it so much.
But if you'd rather just yell into the void, Ill leave you be.

[Toutatis]

It is entirely possible to win and work on this achievement even if the netcode sucks. I won twice in the one session I've played.
The event is here for months. You don't need <Queen Bean> right this very second, just like you don't need the Seal Rock coat or Onsal mount right this very second.
Long term goals are good and keep the mode alive. 100 Participation rounds would have been achieved by pretty much everyone at this point except those who are exceptionally bad. You would only need 50 matches if you qualified the first two rounds, which would take less than 4 hours. That's terrible to keep the mode alive.

For example, I would have no reason to go back since I would already have all rewards and the title after 1 night of playing.

The problem with the Fall Guys event is that it gets faster and faster with practice. Many are cheating now too with speed hacks and mods that show the hit box of every explosion, leaving no chance to the honest player, even moreso if that player wasn’t there on day 1 when people were learning the courses. Pretty sure, if not already done, that there will be bots running the entire course very soon. There’s also several trolls around that just stand near the finish line and wait till the last second to cross it.

The event is completely broken due to that stupid achievement tied to a temporary event that will come back on an occasional basis only. It doesn’t event remotely compare to Seal Rock (and it still counts if you channel the tomelith long enough, even if you were not exactly the first to hit it).

Edit: it would have been better to reward participation or have an achievement of “complete the course x times under the time of x”. That way you run against a clock and not cheaters.

[RyveSontek]

The problem with the Fall Guys event is that it gets faster and faster with practice. Many are cheating now too with speed hacks and mods that show the hit box of every explosion, leaving no chance to the honest player, even moreso if that player wasn’t there on day 1 when people were learning the courses.

While I agree that it's harder, you can still learn and get on mostly equal footing with honest players fairly quickly.
I don't know how many people are cheating. I don't know if I've encountered any myself.
Despite it all, I'm still frequently winning games. So those with the skills can do it for sure.

[Ashiee]

SE needs to do a better job with achievement balancing in general, but especially the achievements that are limited time only.

My suggestion for the future if they add events like this (though they won't see this probably):
- Reduce the number of required wins to around 10-15
- Add an achievement that's "Participate in Event 100 times" or however many times SE wants us to on average to participate

My reasoning: by requiring 100 wins, people like me who will grind it out will get really sweaty with it and start mapping out routes to get to the end, giving people who are playing more casually and reactively a very difficult path to win, which I can see being frustrating for more casual players. This is supposed to be a fun kind of casual event and unfortunately with the way it is structured it really just kind of makes the last stage unfun for the vast majority. Reducing the number of required wins, it will make some of those who are actually mapping out routes, not do that, at least I wouldn't be, I would personally be a lot more casual with it.
Since they would be reducing the win amount quite a bit, they would counteract it with a participation number achievement. Still make those people who would be grinding the 100 wins needing to grind out something and keep the queues populated.

I realize they won't change the fall guys event achievement, but maybe if they add more events and achievements in the future, they would maybe consider something like this.

[RyveSontek]

Is it really timed if it will return? I guess it kind of is and isn't at the same time.

As for mapping routes. A good basic understanding of each section will get you just as far and is far less effort than mapping the whole level from the start.
That's how I've been winning matches day 1 and still do. While that is not fully in reach for everyone, it is perhaps not quite as sweaty as you make it out to be. (Still a little sweaty though)