Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
No, min maxing means you have a choice. Getting Phoenix doesn't give you a choice, therefore, no min maxing has been done. This is the whole reason Phoenix was buffed fairly quickly, to make it equal to Bahamut, so that you don't do less just by levelling.
By complaining about it you influence the design so your numbers get bigger again. It's min-maxing of a different order. And isn't the point of that mindset that there are no options but only one correct way?

What these complaints fail to recognise is that these numbers don't happen in a vacuum. I've already seen people advocating for the removal of raise on certain jobs. The whole discussion boils down to shortsightedness and only seeing one's own DPS not the game as a whole two expansions in a row. Y to the P said so himself when he pointed out that he was only obliging players (like with the 2 minute meta). That's why you should leave the game design to, y'know, game designers.