Fall Guys event feedback

[Myon88]

There's two factors at play when you get hit by mechanics like that.

• Mechanic snapshots and animations are often disjointed. Your ping doesn't affect this, it's the same for everyone.
  
  For things like the sliding bumpers or punching gloves, ~0.5s before they actually move they have already checked for collision, the animation you see later is just cosmetic. It's quite obvious on the Typhon donut map because the bumpers show their line aoe before they move, you can see how separated it is from their actual movement.
  
  If you want to cross an obstacle like that as early as possible, you need to be 'pre-running' into it before it has actually moved on your screen. If you only react to the animation happening, you are already late and very close to the snapshot of the next cycle. Of course, you can run too early as well, so there's an element of difficulty because you need to rely on your sense of timing.

• However much ping you're playing on, will further offset the timings above by an equivalent amount. No matter how high your latency, you have the same window of safety for mechanics as someone on low ping - it's just shifted backwards in time.
  
  Suppose a mechanic plays its animation at t = 0s, hits once every 2 seconds, and the snapshot is 0.5s earlier than the animation.
  
  Someone playing at 0ms ping needs to start running into it on their screen at -0.5s, and they have 2 seconds of safety before the next snapshot at +1.5s
  Someone playing at 200ms ping needs to start running even earlier at -0.7s, and they are safe until +1.3s.

Just imagine you have a clone of your character putting you on /follow and you're constantly dragging it behind you. That's your real hitbox as far as the server is concerned.

[WeebPolice]

There's two factors at play when you get hit by mechanics like that.

• Mechanic snapshots and animations are often disjointed. Your ping doesn't affect this, it's the same for everyone.
  
  For things like the sliding bumpers or punching gloves, ~0.5s before they actually move they have already checked for collision, the animation you see later is just cosmetic. It's quite obvious on the Typhon donut map because the bumpers show their line aoe before they move, you can see how separated it is from their actual movement.
  
  If you want to cross an obstacle like that as early as possible, you need to be 'pre-running' into it before it has actually moved on your screen. If you only react to the animation happening, you are already late and very close to the snapshot of the next cycle. Of course, you can run too early as well, so there's an element of difficulty because you need to rely on your sense of timing.

• However much ping you're playing on, will further offset the timings above by an equivalent amount. No matter how high your latency, you have the same window of safety for mechanics as someone on low ping - it's just shifted backwards in time.
  
  Suppose a mechanic plays its animation at t = 0s, hits once every 2 seconds, and the snapshot is 0.5s earlier than the animation.
  
  Someone playing at 0ms ping needs to start running into it on their screen at -0.5s, and they have 2 seconds of safety before the next snapshot at +1.5s
  Someone playing at 200ms ping needs to start running even earlier at -0.7s, and they are safe until +1.3s.

Just imagine you have a clone of your character putting you on /follow and you're constantly dragging it behind you. That's your real hitbox as far as the server is concerned.

This and the servers do an abysmal job at updating player position, citizen.




Remember the fallen.

[Aneshda]

As far as I know, big games cooperate with other games so that players try new games. Now I ask myself the question. Was a Jump & Run Game like Fall Guys really the right choice for Final Fantasy XIV? Wouldn't another game have been more suitable? Nintendo and Playstation have countless other games. So why Fall Guys? I mean who of you will Pay to Play Fall Guys after this cooperation? Me 100% not.

[TomsYoungerBro]

As far as I know, big games cooperate with other games so that players try new games. Now I ask myself the question. Was a Jump & Run Game like Fall Guys really the right choice for Final Fantasy XIV? Wouldn't another game have been more suitable? Nintendo and Playstation have countless other games. So why Fall Guys? I mean who of you will Pay to Play Fall Guys after this cooperation? Me 100% not.

Looking forward to FFXIV Fortnite collab next year.

[Lufir]

Looking forward to FFXIV Fortnite collab next year.

It's actually funny how real of a possibility this is lol

[Kitsu]

No matter how high your latency, you have the same window of safety for mechanics as someone on low ping - it's just shifted backwards in time.

The problem that some of us are experiencing is that the mechanics are not the same window of safety when dodging the same way.

When I pre-run into an area that is immediately becoming safe, sometimes I get hit, and sometimes I don't. It's not predictable due to networking issues to the FFXIV servers. From where I'm located in the United States, I have to use a VPN to go around two NTT bad nodes - Ashburn, VA and San Jose, CA. FFXIV users have complained for years about these nodes to their ISP and the FFXIV forums and nothing has changed after all of these years. With the VPN, the issue is reduced, but not eliminated entirely.

It's easy in retrospect to say "skill issue" and "this is where you got snapshot" but it's infuriating because FFXIV is the only game that I experience networking issues with.