Criterion savage rewards still suck

[xbahax92]

Right? All I see in this thread is dooming from people who will never even lay one finger on this content. Is this reward perfectly timed? No, but imagine getting this week 4 after a new savage tier as a secondary method of obtaining a bis weapon for an alt job using content that isn't the same raids over and over. It's a step in the right direction and it's a cosmetic for people to show off which is really what the Variant/Savage have been lacking. Also, the Criterions are really fun? I admit I am not really the biggest fan of how they handled the savage iterations just being increased damage output and without rez, but I did Another Sildihn and some of Another Rokkon and they were both a blast. The problem is not that this content is bad, it's that the game is currently lacking more mid-level difficulty gameplay content for casual endgame players. As hard content the Criterions are very enjoyable even if the rewards have been severely lacking until now. I actually do believe this will boost participation a bit which should be the end goal.

Agree, this is content not aimed for the casual crowd, but rather for people that like savage raiding in general. So once again, feedback fell on deaf ears. I personally would appreciate if the 3rd stage was hardest difficulty and criterion itself for the mid-core audience. Apparently that's to much to ask for. And no, a dps check and enrage timer does not define difficulty. It's lazy method to punish the player for underperforming, meaning every casual player can get the f out.

[TomsYoungerBro]

Right? All I see in this thread is dooming from people who will never even lay one finger on this content. Is this reward perfectly timed? No, but imagine getting this week 4 after a new savage tier as a secondary method of obtaining a bis weapon for an alt job using content that isn't the same raids over and over. It's a step in the right direction and it's a cosmetic for people to show off which is really what the Variant/Savage have been lacking.

Then why is a level 80 blu weapon locked behind this content?

[Connor]

The entire Criterion thing is absolutely hilarious. What a joke.

A Blue Mage weapon locked behind high-lev post-raid content that they literally cannot do?

Some weapons that are weaker than raid ones but you literally need to have completed the raids (at least to 3 I think) to even get that weapon in the first place? I assume you still need the items from savage raids to even get the upgraded tome weapon in the first place. And then one final relic step drops, well RIP lol.

Frankly I’m kind of shocked at how out-of-touch this patch overall is. It’s like they just made the shit up and were like ‘ok cool just do that’ without actually making any effort to actually think about how it’ll fit in with content

[Caro178]

Then why is a level 80 blu weapon locked behind this content?

It isn't. The Gentlemage's Umbrella was released with the same patch as level 80 BLU. It's a reward from BLU achievements. You already need to own it in order to obtain this glowy version which is exactly the same as every other weapon from the savage iteration.

[TomsYoungerBro]

It isn't. The Gentlemage's Umbrella was released with the same patch as level 80 BLU. It's a reward from BLU achievements. You already need to own it in order to obtain this glowy version which is exactly the same as every other weapon from the savage iteration.

Right, but you can't do this content as a level 80 blu mage. So again, why is it locked behind savage criterion?

[WantlessYoYo]

So let me get this straight
This is an upgrade for tome weapon from 660 to 665
Said tome weapon not only needs (now) a month to buy but tomes, okay
Need you all to remind you to go from 650>660 YOU STILL NEED TO DO P11S
Because for some reason they didn't add the divine upgrade to either nuts or Thaleia coins
AND EVEN THEN, this means it's useless because on 6.55 we're getting relic wich by default is BIS
They could've made
6.5> 655 weapons with EX7
6.51> Add the divine, people now can upgrade tome weapons to 660 and incentive to(kinda?) do criterion savage instead of raid tier and have an equivalent
6.55> Now we have access to final relic step and BIS for the expansion

And that would have been it.
Good idea, bad execution

[Teno]

I was initially disappointed but the 665 weapons have a glow, which is quite good as a reward. Some of them look really great and overall they all look good.

[AluneTempest]

i cant see any logic behind lock a BLU mage weapon in a lvl 90 Savage dungeon that BLU cant even do the content.

[Teno]

[gem5]

I care less about the actual reward but the biggest problem with criterion savage is the boredom - boss mechs do not change from normal. They are at best EX/Bozja level and savage is basically adds prog. They should AT LEAST upgrade the savage version to savage raid mech complexity so at least we get something new in criterion savage. The experience has been just purely boring with criterion savage there is nothing fun about it.

tl;dr: the content is simply not fun.