Healer kit adjustment idea, 40% dps to 60% heals/utility

[LilimoLimomo]

Healers in FF14 remind me of a scene from the second Kill Bill film. A bouncer arrives late to work, and his boss chastises him for it. The bouncer looks around the empty club and says something along the lines of, "I don't see how this is a problem, there's nobody here to bounce." And his boss responds, "Are you saying that the reason you weren't doing your job is because there's no job for you to do? You make a very good point."

And that's really how I feel about healers.

Adding more DPS to healers doesn't make me want to go back to healing; it makes me want to play a healer even less. When I want to DPS, I play a DPS class. I play healers because I want to heal.

[Nizzi]

Adding more DPS to healers doesn't make me want to go back to healing; it makes me want to play a healer even less. When I want to DPS, I play a DPS class. I play healers because I want to heal.

So do you do Extreme, Savage or even Ultimates as a healer to get that then?

[LilimoLimomo]

So do you do Extreme, Savage or even Ultimates as a healer to get that then?

I would if all that Extremes/Savages added to the mix was bigger heal requirements, but unfortunately I can't get that without also fielding many other requirements that are alienating to me.

Heavensward really hit the sweet spot for me where healers had a meaningful job outside of EX/Savage.

[IDontPetLalas]

Healers in FF14 remind me of a scene from the second Kill Bill film. A bouncer arrives late to work, and his boss chastises him for it. The bouncer looks around the empty club and says something along the lines of, "I don't see how this is a problem, there's nobody here to bounce." And his boss responds, "Are you saying that the reason you weren't doing your job is because there's no job for you to do? You make a very good point."

And that's really how I feel about healers.

Adding more DPS to healers doesn't make me want to go back to healing; it makes me want to play a healer even less. When I want to DPS, I play a DPS class. I play healers because I want to heal.

First of all, I think your analogy could be improved a bit. In your analogy, the boss has made two valid points- the first is that bouncer should have been there on time - right now, we aren't discussing whether the healer should be included. Regarding whether the bouncer is needed at all- fair enough, I see how you want to apply this to how you feel about healers.

Now we get to the "how do you feel about healing". I don't know how you feel about clicking 1 button to DPS. I know that if no one needs healing, I don't want to just stand there, and clicking one button (since I just have a dot) and having an occasional card flip could be improved upon.

That doesn't "make me a DPS" in my mind, as someone who had a DPS main for many years there's a distinct difference in how that feels. As a healer or a support (I've enjoyed both) the enjoyable part is being able to balance both DPS and healing, and where it was fun was when I had a balanced selection of skills for both. That's not the case presently for healers in FFXIV.

[LilimoLimomo]

First of all, I think your analogy could be improved a bit. In your analogy, the boss has made two valid points- the first is that bouncer should have been there on time - right now, we aren't discussing whether the healer should be included. Regarding whether the bouncer is needed at all- fair enough, I see how you want to apply this to how you feel about healers.

Now we get to the "how do you feel about healing". I don't know how you feel about clicking 1 button to DPS. I know that if no one needs healing, I don't want to just stand there, and clicking one button (since I just have a dot) and having an occasional card flip could be improved upon.

That doesn't "make me a DPS" in my mind, as someone who had a DPS main for many years there's a distinct difference in how that feels. As a healer or a support (I've enjoyed both) the enjoyable part is being able to balance both DPS and healing, and where it was fun was when I had a balanced selection of skills for both. That's not the case presently for healers in FFXIV.

Haha, that's fair, it's not a perfect analogy. It just really vibes with me.

I don't mind doing mild DPS, I just don't want to feel like the majority of my time as a healer is spent DPSing. If I'm DPSing as a healer, it should be because I'm so good at healing that I've carved out some extra time for myself; every time I cast Glare it should feel like I'm getting away with something. That's not how it feels right now; my Glares are not evidence of skill, they are simply what I'm doing most of the time. Give me healing to do 80-95% of the time and I'll be happy pressing Glare for the rest of it. (although if I'm honest, I really miss Stone IV)