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    Aravell's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    We're settling for one because SE doesn't want to put in the effort to fix all of it.
    The concern about settling for one thing is that SE then has a reason to say "Alright, job's done, we can ignore them now.". I think if we want to push for change, we need to push for good change that actually benefits the role in the long-term.

    I don't think we should care about their workload, they asked for feedback, we should provide feedback, there's no need to be concerned about how much work it would take or what their current stance is.

    Obviously, I understand that they might not be able to work out all the issues all at once because the work is going to be a lot after 4 years of neglect. But I feel if we lay out the issues and push them on it, we can probably get the gradual change that we need for the health of the healer role.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    The concern about settling for one thing is that SE then has a reason to say "Alright, job's done, we can ignore them now.". I think if we want to push for change, we need to push for good change that actually benefits the role in the long-term.

    I don't think we should care about their workload, they asked for feedback, we should provide feedback, there's no need to be concerned about how much work it would take or what their current stance is.

    Obviously, I understand that they might not be able to work out all the issues all at once because the work is going to be a lot after 4 years of neglect. But I feel if we lay out the issues and push them on it, we can probably get the gradual change that we need for the health of the healer role.
    I mean it’s a good philosophy to have but when have square put in one iota of effort when it comes to healers

    The community had to ban the casual favourite healer from savage to force their hand on misery changes and SGE is basically just the redressed “this is the rework where we finally delete energy drain” they were going to give to SCH

    If viper is anything to go by based on its actions they can’t even bring themselves to care about melees anymore and we are a distant 6th behind the other 4 roles and the damn crafters at this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    The concern about settling for one thing is that SE then has a reason to say "Alright, job's done, we can ignore them now.". I think if we want to push for change, we need to push for good change that actually benefits the role in the long-term.

    I don't think we should care about their workload, they asked for feedback, we should provide feedback, there's no need to be concerned about how much work it would take or what their current stance is.

    Obviously, I understand that they might not be able to work out all the issues all at once because the work is going to be a lot after 4 years of neglect. But I feel if we lay out the issues and push them on it, we can probably get the gradual change that we need for the health of the healer role.
    We've long since laid out our issues. If they want to see them they can look.

    They don't want to and I'm tired to trying to talk to a direction who has yet to apologize for this level of BS basically boiling down to you want higher healing "Go Play Ultimate".

    That's the stance they're taking. Its the wrong stance, but they haven't budged in 2 expansions. They won't increase healing requirements and fix healers so they have diverse healing styles to make healing fun engaging and of different skill levels? The very least they could do is give Healers the Tank treatment and give us a more indepth DPS rotation. Would I be HAPPY with just that? No. Will I take it if that's all I can get? Yes.

    That's the very LEAST they can do.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE