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  1. #81
    Player Kyrj's Avatar
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    It's part of the reason I don't even touch PvP. It feels and looks awful. Like a lot of the Jobs PvP kits have some really nice setups but the game just doesn't allow for those PvP plays that feel amazing. They can add all the rewards and new game modes they want, it's not going to fix their shit code.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    Wow, imagine experience lag in a mmorpg, and then any level of lag calls for a some type of extreme measures to circumvent something that- is always going to happen no matter how good the tech is on all sides, because... and i cannot stress this enough, the internet- i don't know... LAGS SOMETIMES.
    Not going to lie, you're delusional if you watch the video just 3 comments above yours, and try to tell me that sort of delay is normal.

    The guy jumps and lands at the same time the other guy sees her just starting to jump.

    That is unacceptable for a modern top market MMORPG. And the only reason why it works is cause the game relies on a lot on it's theme, music and art.
    It is by all technical measures inferior to most mmorpg's in the last 15 years.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    Wow, imagine experience lag in a mmorpg, and then any level of lag calls for a some type of extreme measures to circumvent something that- is always going to happen no matter how good the tech is on all sides, because... and i cannot stress this enough, the internet- i don't know... LAGS SOMETIMES.
    Exhibit A of someone who doesn't understand the tech aspect of this thread but still feels the need to comment on it..
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  4. #84
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    This does need to be addressed. Deep dungeon feels bad with all the one hit mechanics especially when you're outside of them after they go off.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morphiana View Post
    This does need to be addressed. Deep dungeon feels bad with all the one hit mechanics especially when you're outside of them after they go off.
    I seriously wonder if they ever will. I can just hope, because Yoshi seems to care about the game. But i don't understand why people try to defend this at all. More people being open about this issue would make it more likely to be addressed.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    It's part of the reason I don't even touch PvP. It feels and looks awful. Like a lot of the Jobs PvP kits have some really nice setups but the game just doesn't allow for those PvP plays that feel amazing. They can add all the rewards and new game modes they want, it's not going to fix their shit code.
    I had the same experience, and everyone that played i know played wow. I will say the Crystalline front is a fun concept and all but the floaty feel of pvp just ruins it. Especially because there is combos that can kill you in one to two globals and you don't know it happens until it's too late because of the delay.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasimBaa View Post
    I seriously wonder if they ever will. I can just hope, because Yoshi seems to care about the game. But i don't understand why people try to defend this at all. More people being open about this issue would make it more likely to be addressed.
    Honestly it feels like they are able to live with it and prefer that effort to be spent elsewhere in the game.

    If they work to fix this, then that is time not spent working on other things, after all.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irenia View Post
    Honestly it feels like they are able to live with it and prefer that effort to be spent elsewhere in the game.

    If they work to fix this, then that is time not spent working on other things, after all.
    Since they never directly addressed this in particular, it seems like it just wasn't loud enough feedback to reach them. People just quit before they are invested enough to give the feedback we can only report 3rd hand by people we tried to get into it, that reported this issue for them being the reason to quit. Asmongold a few days ago also said this is one of the main reasons he stopped and struggles to get interested to get back in to the game.

    So i don't understand why they wouldn't want to invest this time to change this, besides the fact that i still have no evidence that it would be such a huge time investment it's all people just assuming that.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasimBaa View Post
    Since they never directly addressed this in particular, it seems like it just wasn't loud enough feedback to reach them.
    In all my time playing this game, it has obviously been an issue we've all known about, but I've never seen anyone raising noise about it in a way that would reach the developers or really anyone, until the last year, tbh. And that noise is hardly enough.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    In all my time playing this game, it has obviously been an issue we've all known about, but I've never seen anyone raising noise about it in a way that would reach the developers or really anyone, until the last year, tbh. And that noise is hardly enough.
    My fear is that once certain other MMORPG's come out that feel better, without being shitshows like wow and black desert for example. That we lose people simply because the tech is just inferior for no apparent reason.


    Like i said the theme and name of the series does a lot for this game. In my opinion at least.
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