What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Renathras]

Not taikin' the bait anymore. Sorry guys, you'll have to find a new punching bag. I'm done with that stupidity. I should have wised up to your collective gaslighting far sooner. Shame on me for not doing so. But now that I have, your bait is inert.
(I'd also suggestion you look at 3, 4, 5, and 6 in your signature, BRVV. They're good points you should actually follow yourself, as you aren't in your replies to me here, especially 6.)

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Edit: Not the Ascians killing everyone was right either. I would have prefered Venat just tell everyone what was up before we had to head into thousands of years of forced mass sacrifice.

Didn't she make an attempt. She went and talked to them (in the cutscene it's a small crowd, but that's true of all cutscenes due to engine limits, so presumably she was talking to a lot of the remaining survivors at once) and they were like cultists talking about how they would cultivate new life then sacrifice it to Zodiark (genocide; manufactured genocide at that) as many times as it takes to get their old state of living back. And it was clear they weren't interested in any alternative. It made all of that pretty clear that up until then, she was torn on the Sundering and didn't want to do it, but that was what convinced her her people were beyond reason as she tried to actually reason with them.

Unless you mean before Zodiark, though I was thinking the story said some reason for that, though it might have been contrived. But that said, there's no clear indication that would have worked. I'm not sure if the Convocation would have called her insane or taken her seriously, but everything we've seen shows their magic doesn't inherently reach beyond Etherys (that is, to get to Endsinger), or that they would have been able not to lose themselves to her Song and be unable to fight her effectively (similarly to the way the Company of Heroes fought Titan), nor is it clear they would have even tried such a plan in the first place, much less succeeded. On the one hand, we're told Dynamis works differently and would have overwhelmed their power, but on the other hand, Emet and Hyth are able to use it just fine at the end of Ultima Thul, though that could be because they were somehow there through the WoL.

There are a lot more question marks down that path, not a sure thing of a better outcome.

What I took from the story is that when she did go to them, they outright refused to listen because they were basically cultists sold on the idea of regaining all they had without any lasting sacrifice on their part. The implication here is that they would have reacted to her earlier overtures the same way.

And we also know from past lore that they did, since we know from ShB that the Zodiark plan was the first time their society split. Meaning Venat probably DID talk about it then AND they decided to do it anyway. We're not sure what she did and did not reveal, but we know she tried to reach them with reason even then and was rejected.

So there's very little in the lore that evidences that Venat just needed to go to them and explain things and they would have listened. Everything we have in the story suggests the exact opposite.

[Nayukhuut]

Didn't she make an attempt....

That cutscene wasn't one for one. It was meant to be a stylised thing. Even then, her forcing her will on them was still wrong since it has been said, even in canon, that her faction was the minority. Imagine nowadays if some fringe group basically said we are doing this, wiped out the entire population, and then set up people that schooled whatever remained in how they should act. That was basically what Venat did. It drives me nuts that the story treats it as okay because the Ancients were apparently beyond saving (because we are constantly told no one is without hope). They had just gone through serious trauma, of course they were not exactly doing well at the time. Venat had no right to decide for an entire population what they should do. Even worse than that, she decided, and then killed everyone.

As for Ancient creations not reaching Meteion... Are we forgetting that Meteion herself was an Ancient creation? I am sure that if the best minds of the time were actually allowed to study the problem they could have come up with something. Sunder themselves purposefully, or make more creations for the purpose of going and fighting her. I dunno. They were never given that choice though. They were never told what was going to happen. Venat just sort of decided her people were not worth saving and genocided he lot of them to make way for new planets full of people she found more palatable led by gods she put there instead of one she apparently didn't like as much.

I would also like to point out that her Sundered worlds also require constant maintenance too. If we do not pray to the Twelve, the stabalising mechanism put in place will fail. So really, saying she is better than Zodiark rings hollow.

Also sorry, I would have quoted you in full but the forum text limits are draconian.

[Theodric]

Also sorry, I would have quoted you in full but the forum text limits are draconian.

On that note, you can get around the text limit if you edit a post after submitting. So you could write up a lengthy post, cut it in half, post the first part and then edit in the rest.

[Nayukhuut]

On that note, you can get around the text limit if you edit a post after submitting. So you could write up a lengthy post, cut it in half, post the first part and then edit in the rest.

Oh, thank you. I wasn't even aware. Usually it is not too much of an issue, and I don't intend on writing novels by any means, but it seems that the default text limit is just set rather low.

Thank you kindly for the tip.