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    Bonoki's Avatar
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    Phoebe Iris
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    Unironically, I have gotten CT the most so far still since patch dropped. What's everyone else's experience like so far?
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    Unironically, I have gotten CT the most so far still since patch dropped. What's everyone else's experience like so far?
    I got labyrinth of the ancients (with no first timer bonus), the run was agonizing because one party was just short of intentionally trolling and then decided without moogle tomes it's just not worth my time. You might be facing what I predicted could happen: ilvl cheesers are no longer hogging up all the spots in CT and are no longer pushing you out into other araids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Katy Purrito
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    Just put the CT raids into their own separate duty. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz_McKatz View Post
    Just put the CT raids into their own separate duty. Problem solved.
    Simplest solution by far.
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    Erzaa Skarlett
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz_McKatz View Post
    Just put the CT raids into their own separate duty. Problem solved.
    I wouldn't be opposed to that, but wouldn't that just make Void Ark the raid to be cheesed? It's not that hard either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    I wouldn't be opposed to that, but wouldn't that just make Void Ark the raid to be cheesed? It's not that hard either.
    None of them are that hard. It is all dependent on the alliance group. I have been in alliance groups who sped through Euphrosyne.
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    Last edited by Katz_McKatz; 10-08-2023 at 06:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz_McKatz View Post
    None of them are that hard. It is all dependent on the alliance group. I have been in alliance groups who sped through Euphrosyne.
    I feel you're missing my point. Moving CT into its own roulette is good in theory. It being the only required one, having its own queue makes sense.

    But, the whole point of cheesing the ilvl is to get the maximum rewards for minimum effort. So CT is removed from the pool, that just means the next quickest and easiest raid is going to become the one everyone complains about, likely Void Ark.

    I want SE to please fix the current situation, but at the same time I don't want them to go for another easy and quick band aid that's going to cause more unintended consequences. That's how we got to the current situation in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    I feel you're missing my point. Moving CT into its own roulette is good in theory. It being the only required one, having its own queue makes sense.

    But, the whole point of cheesing the ilvl is to get the maximum rewards for minimum effort. So CT is removed from the pool, that just means the next quickest and easiest raid is going to become the one everyone complains about, likely Void Ark.

    I want SE to please fix the current situation, but at the same time I don't want them to go for another easy and quick band aid that's going to cause more unintended consequences. That's how we got to the current situation in the first place.
    Thanks for explaining what you meant. I agree with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    I feel you're missing my point. Moving CT into its own roulette is good in theory. It being the only required one, having its own queue makes sense.

    But, the whole point of cheesing the ilvl is to get the maximum rewards for minimum effort. So CT is removed from the pool, that just means the next quickest and easiest raid is going to become the one everyone complains about, likely Void Ark.

    I want SE to please fix the current situation, but at the same time I don't want them to go for another easy and quick band aid that's going to cause more unintended consequences. That's how we got to the current situation in the first place.
    This is a legitimate concern, but CT remains the only raid that is required, so it's much easier to be forced into while using random queues. In the case of any other raid, you have the potential of queuing with people ineligible for Void Ark.

    If it's possible for SE to do something more complex than just separating roulettes, which appears to be possible, then I think additional options should be considered. However isolating CT should also be a priority because of its current place in the game.

    I don't know exactly what is possible, but we could further divide roulettes such that the ones of equivalent effort are grouped together, eliminating the desire to find the path of least resistance. Another alternative is to simply let people blacklist content from roulettes. As long as you have two groups with opposing desires, that will work.
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    Tim Brady
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    I feel you're missing my point. Moving CT into its own roulette is good in theory. It being the only required one, having its own queue makes sense.

    But, the whole point of cheesing the ilvl is to get the maximum rewards for minimum effort. So CT is removed from the pool, that just means the next quickest and easiest raid is going to become the one everyone complains about, likely Void Ark.

    I want SE to please fix the current situation, but at the same time I don't want them to go for another easy and quick band aid that's going to cause more unintended consequences. That's how we got to the current situation in the first place.
    They already resolved this by giving out additional rewards for the 60/70/80/90 alliance raids. CT is no longer the "maximum rewards for minimum effort".
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