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    They could maybe tie it to MSQ progression. Or if the game know what raids you have unlocked so your ilvl has to be as high as the highest available to you. But probably some issues with having a variable ilvl on roulette that is character specific. Either way, if you wanna blame anyone, blame the players who cheesed ilvl to keep doing CT over and over and over.

    Also, I get this will sound harsh. But, if you are 90 in HW, Stb, Shb, why are you even running Alliance Roulette on that 90 job anyway? You don't need the tomestones or xp. The easiest option would just be level up another job.
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    Last edited by ChrysOCE; 10-04-2023 at 10:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    They could maybe tie it to MSQ progression. Or if the game know what raids you have unlocked so your ilvl has to be as high as the highest available to you. But probably some issues with having a variable ilvl on roulette that is character specific. Either way, if you wanna blame anyone, blame the players who cheesed ilvl to keep doing CT over and over and over.

    Also, I get this will sound harsh. But, if you are 90 in HW, Stb, Shb, why are you even running Alliance Roulette on that 90 job anyway? You don't need the tomestones or xp. The easiest option would just be level up another job.
    The overleveled people we are talking about would be causing CT raids because they have no other araids unlocked. They were effectively ilvl cheesing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    The overleveled people we are talking about would be causing CT raids because they have no other araids unlocked. They were effectively ilvl cheesing.
    Sure, I get that. Well... not really. That would be true for a period, but then you progress the MSQ and unlock content? Unless people are just staying in ARR, HW, Stb whatever and levelling to 90 and not progressing the MSQ forward. Which is kinda weird, to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    The overleveled people we are talking about would be causing CT raids because they have no other araids unlocked. They were effectively ilvl cheesing.
    I have all raids unlocked up to, and including, ShB. I haven't done Endwalker yet but have all jobs at 80+, including multiple 90s. All jobs are geared to ShB tomestone (Cryptlurker) gear.

    I frequently ran Alliance roulette with level 90 characters and have all the Endwalker currencies capped, that I can't spend.

    Are you suggesting I'm causing CT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    I have all raids unlocked up to, and including, ShB. I haven't done Endwalker yet but have all jobs at 80+, including multiple 90s. All jobs are geared to ShB tomestone (Cryptlurker) gear.

    I frequently ran Alliance roulette with level 90 characters and have all the Endwalker currencies capped, that I can't spend.

    Are you suggesting I'm causing CT?
    I think you missed the part where posters claimed that most new players reached lvl 90 by the end of HW. Are you suggesting everyone plays exactly like you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    Because they feel like it? Because they might want to? Maybe to play on a job they're comfortable on that day? Farming Moogle tomes during the event?

    Gee, it's almost like people can play the game the way they want to for any number of reasons and shouldn't be punished because of other players' actions.
    Then just queue for the 5 araids you like the most. You're not locked out of just doing the alliance raids themselves.

    Or just finish the MSQ and you'll never have this problem again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I think you missed the part where posters claimed that most new players reached lvl 90 by the end of HW. Are you suggesting everyone plays exactly like you?
    Some do. I had my first 90 before finishing SB. Whether few or many is irrelevant. I could just as easily argue that fixing iLVL cheesing was pointless, because the cheesers are the minority and CT is the most common raid because it's the only one that's required.


    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Then just queue for the 5 araids you like the most. You're not locked out of just doing the alliance raids themselves.

    Or just finish the MSQ and you'll never have this problem again.
    Uhm, no thank you. I like the randomness of the Alliance Roulette and would like to continue being allowed to use a feature that has been working for me for the last 4 years... Crazy, I know!

    And I will finish the MSQ when I'm damned well good and ready to finish it.

    I set a goal for myself to unlock all additional dialogue in the MSQ as far back as ARR, Endwalker will come when ShB expansions content is fully complete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    Some do. I had my first 90 before finishing SB. Whether few or many is irrelevant. I could just as easily argue that fixing iLVL cheesing was pointless, because the cheesers are the minority and CT is the most common raid because it's the only one that's required.
    Oh I've been saying that in basically every thread about araid ilvl cheese. No one listened to it lmao

    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    Uhm, no thank you. I like the randomness of the Alliance Roulette and would like to continue being allowed to use a feature that has been working for me for the last 4 years... Crazy, I know!

    And I will finish the MSQ when I'm damned well good and ready to finish it.

    I set a goal for myself to unlock all additional dialogue in the MSQ as far back as ARR, Endwalker will come when ShB expansions content is fully complete.
    It would still be random between the 5 you select. You could also just do the roulette on a job you havent maxed out yet.

    Wow, you've been slacking on the msq for 4 years. That's wild. You know what, pop off queen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Oh I've been saying that in basically every thread about araid ilvl cheese. No one listened to it lmao



    It would still be random between the 5 you select. You could also just do the roulette on a job you havent maxed out yet.

    Wow, you've been slacking on the msq for 4 years. That's wild. You know what, pop off queen.
    Uhm... Thanks! I haven't been slacking, I play expansion by expansion. Soon, when Save the Queen storyline is done, I'll be moving into Endwalker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    I have all raids unlocked up to, and including, ShB. I haven't done Endwalker yet but have all jobs at 80+, including multiple 90s. All jobs are geared to ShB tomestone (Cryptlurker) gear.

    I frequently ran Alliance roulette with level 90 characters and have all the Endwalker currencies capped, that I can't spend.


    You don't need more tomes you can't spend, or xp when you are already overleveled. Same goes for OP.
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