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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealQuah View Post
    People complained ARR relic was to RNG.
    People complained the Heavensward relic had too many objectives.
    People complained Eureka was boring and grindy.
    People complained Bozja forced you to do long instances with pointless actions

    They were all engaging in different ways, but the playerbase complained, and so they were given what they wanted this time.

    You can have a fun engaging relic, but the majority of players don't want it. They want fast and easy.


    1) ARR WAS too RNG grindy. Atma drop rates sucked, the books sucked. Both are actively loathed to this day 9 years later.
    2) HW, certain steps did suck. Requiring 27000 poes for a single relic is insanity. Especially when the cap at that time was 1000 poes.
    3) Eureak was grindy. The light grinds sucked and Pagos was the developers actively punishing us for not playing their "preferred" way in Anemos
    4) Bozja was pointless because it was much more efficient to grind for your relic outside of the instance than inside of it due to Bozja Fate RNG vs 100% drop rate outside. Also, the proofs of mettle were largely irrelevant outside of the DPS ones and marginally the tank ones. Those two helped inside Bozja but the healing ones and tank ones were worthless inside the instances of DR and Castrum because 2 hits was an instant death. No amount of HP or healing changed that.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 09-29-2023 at 08:33 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]