[dev1033] Ideas for a Two-Tier Class System: Jobs on Top of Weapon Specializations

[Anathiel]

Also people would be grouping together based off their weapon class rank I presume? Which would dictate HP etc?

Some thought would have to go into this and stat distribution, as I've seen a few of you post on thus far, but no clear way of doing this has been said yet.

In my mind yes, but I'm not carpe he might have thought of something else. But to me your title would be something that leveled with your weapon skill. Get rid of physical level, make stat distribution static on weapon class equipped with your title stat bonuses being able to be chosen when reaching the next tier of advancement. We all know gladiator will be a tankingclass due to shield, but if you gave the option at certain intervals of leveling to specialize your stat point allotment then supplement those stat choices with percentage-type bonuses chosen through the advanced title leveling, you create a way to change the way certain advance titles and base weapon classes would level or group.

That's just the first thought off the top of my head, if you could think of a better system by all means post it lol, I hadn't really thought about how people would group for content using this sytem, and also stat allolcation depending on when you do get your advanced title.

EDIT: actuallly I don't see why you couldn't allocate your skill points as you do now, but with the title system just being used to enhance the stats you have with any equipped class. It still raaises the question do you get rid of physical level though?

[Nuru]

AWWWWW i had something awesome to add to this but i forgot it. x-x

[Reiku]

Someone had mentioned earlier about initial titles prior to unlocking the major ones. Such as Onion Knight, etc. Some generic classes that will hold you over till you unlock the more advanced titles.

I think that stats should be dictated by your title over weapon class, because it will limit your ability to customize. A Dark Knight who wants to be more offensive while using a sword would be less effective if GLA is primarily giving you vitality. Making all end game DRK's use MRD class.

So having perhaps three basic archetypes of titles to begin with could be used to handle stat/hp/mp distribution until you are unlocking the later titles.

This way titles like rdm can use swords/fist weapons while still maintaining higher intellect and mind scores, etc. And Monk/Pugilist can still benefit from higher strength and dexterity.

[Reiku]

Basically
Class = How much stats
Title = What the stat points are put into.


This could vary for each title/weapon combo as well to some degree. So stats will vary throughout each combination. ON TOP of added bonuses and multipliers through title choice.

[Nuru]

So you're saying like, if they were to remove Physical Level, we could probably distribute bonus points to our attribute through title rank? :3

This idea alone would actually spawn the motive to Cap Tittle Ranks as much as the next one.

[Reiku]

Refer to my previous post.

Example (Extreme simplification)

Gladiator Class
As you level up your gladiator stats are added.
Title = Dark Knight (Stat priorities for this class would be Strength and Dexterity)
1LV of Gladiator Rank increases your Strength +4pts, Dexterity +1pts, Vitality by 3pt.

Now say lets say...

As you level up your gladiator stats are added.
Title = Paladin (Stat priorities are Strength and Vitality)
1LV of Gladiator Rank increases your Strength +2pts, Dexterity +2pt, Vitality by 4pts.


Marauder Class
As you level up your marauder stats are added.
Title = Dark Knight (Stat priorities for this class would be Strength and Dexterity)
1LV of Marauder Rank increases your Strength +5pts, Dexterity +2pts, Vitality by 1pt.

Now say lets say...

As you level up your marauder stats are added.
Title = Paladin (Stat priorities are Strength and Vitality)
1LV of Marauder Rank increases your Strength +3pts, Dexterity +3pt, Vitality by 3pts.

So each title would dictate where your stats gained from increasing weapon rank would be allocated.


This of course would vary with each weapon class and title combo. As a Dark Knight Pugalist you'd get maybe slightly more DEX and less STR than you would if you went with Gladiator or Marauder. BUT if you did decide to go gladiator for sword play, you wouldn't get flooded with unecessary vitality as if you would if you were a Paladin (Where you'd want more Vitality).

Is this more clear?

[Cairdeas]

I'd prefer The skills you currently have equipped dictate your stats like Blue Mage did in XI.

[Anathiel]

Refer to my previous post.

Example (Extreme simplification)

Gladiator Class
As you level up your gladiator stats are added.
Title = Dark Knight (Stat priorities for this class would be Strength and Dexterity)
1LV of Gladiator Rank increases your Strength +4pts, Dexterity +1pts, Vitality by 3pt.

Now say lets say...

As you level up your gladiator stats are added.
Title = Paladin (Stat priorities are Strength and Vitality)
1LV of Gladiator Rank increases your Strength +2pts, Dexterity +2pt, Vitality by 4pts.


Marauder Class
As you level up your marauder stats are added.
Title = Dark Knight (Stat priorities for this class would be Strength and Dexterity)
1LV of Marauder Rank increases your Strength +5pts, Dexterity +2pts, Vitality by 1pt.

Now say lets say...

As you level up your marauder stats are added.
Title = Paladin (Stat priorities are Strength and Vitality)
1LV of Marauder Rank increases your Strength +3pts, Dexterity +3pt, Vitality by 3pts.

So each title would dictate where your stats gained from increasing weapon rank would be allocated.


This of course would vary with each weapon class and title combo. As a Dark Knight Pugalist you'd get maybe slightly more DEX and less STR than you would if you went with Gladiator or Marauder. BUT if you did decide to go gladiator for sword play, you wouldn't get flooded with unecessary vitality as if you would if you were a Paladin (Where you'd want more Vitality).

Is this more clear?

That is much more clear and an amazing way of doing it. Not only does it help prevent some of the cookie cutter builds you might end up see'ing it would compliment certain jobs not having to be locked into any one style of play. I "liked" it, as in pushed the like button lol. Honestly that would just be great, for building your base stats. And hopefully could be enhanced using a type of chosen stat bonus picked when leveling up to the next tier of your title.

[Nuru]

Way better. :3 I'm just going to leave you guys something. I was inspired. xD

[Reiku]

Honestly, Square needs to just implement this system. c(ˆ.ˆ)b