[dev1033] Ideas for a Two-Tier Class System: Jobs on Top of Weapon Specializations

[Duelle]

So I could do something like Red Mage/Gladiator to be like a RDM in FFXI and the same for BLU. I really like this idea and it seems really easy to implement.

What worries me about this is whether there will be some actual build up to the multiple roles a hybrid can take up. Red Mage in particular was screwed last time (FFXI) because the job was basically used only for support.

The proposed idea works well with one-role classes in a way, but seems tricky when applying it to hybrids.

[Akumu]

What worries me about this is whether there will be some actual build up to the multiple roles a hybrid can take up. Red Mage in particular was screwed last time (FFXI) because the job was basically used only for support.

The proposed idea works well with one-role classes in a way, but seems tricky when applying it to hybrids.

For the hybrids I imagine the class you "sub" would make you more efficient enough to have a role. Since Hybrids are usually just the "Jack of all trades" type job. I would imagine a RDM/GLA would be better with physical attacks compared to a RDM/CON. There is also the class Fencer but no info on that yet.

Carpe probably could explain it better. This is just a small summary of how I see it.

[Anathiel]

What worries me about this is whether there will be some actual build up to the multiple roles a hybrid can take up. Red Mage in particular was screwed last time (FFXI) because the job was basically used only for support.

The proposed idea works well with one-role classes in a way, but seems tricky when applying it to hybrids.

If I understood carpe's op correctly really all the title system gives you are bonuses and abilities that augment your current equipped weapon specialization. So if you were a rdm/glad, you'd be a sword user with across the board spells chosen from other classes you leveled that would be amplified with red mage abilities whether they be passive or aactive.

[Cairdeas]

If I understood carpe's op correctly really all the title system gives you are bonuses and abilities that augment your current equipped weapon specialization. So if you were a rdm/glad, you'd be a sword user with across the board spells chosen from other classes you leveled that would be amplified with red mage abilities whether they be passive or aactive.

Correct. A RedMage/Gladiator would be somewhat proficient in Elemental Casting, Healing, and Buffing/Debuffing, but would be prime for Elemental Weapon Skills. Dealing more damage with them then a normal Gladiator would for instance.

While a Redmage/Conjurer would be more proficient at dealing direct damage elemental attacks and heals, and Redmage/Thaumaturge would be better at using Damage over Time elementals and heals.

[Anathiel]

I hope cairdeas and I cleared that up for you Duelle ^^

[Duelle]

I hope cairdeas and I cleared that up for you Duelle ^^

Indeed. I understand the idea better now. It would just be a matter of adjusting modifiers and numbers to make sure the roles are on par with each other, rather than one heavily out-performing the other. Thanks for the clarification.

[Anathiel]

Indeed. I understand the idea better now. It would just be a matter of adjusting modifiers and numbers to make sure the roles are on par with each other, rather than one heavily out-performing the other. Thanks for the clarification.

Right, and I really don't think that matter couldn't be solved by a bunch of hardened dev's sitting at a table together for half a day.

[Nuru]

I'd crap myself a good one if they added this because I would be way too excited to make it to the bathroom.

[Cairdeas]

Someone needs to invest in depends? Just in case?

[Nuru]

lol maybe.

Really though I would be happy with this because your Job has nothing to do with the weapon itself.. just the overall idea of this system is unique and one of a kind. Seriously, if you guys need to borrow some of my art talents for any of this for whatever reason, just ask and I'll hop right on it. (Almost done with Male Miqo'te Concept)