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  1. #31
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    Cindrie Estelloix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gukswar View Post
    I probably did not make sense but I mean- New player's won't be able to make parties because-

    Player b Will automatically log in and search for a dungeon using that system- AFK MODE until party is matched up-
    while player A will not party with New players since he is new*

    hence new player's will not party with anyone and end up using the system to search a party- and will eventually run into players THEY will never meet again---- Hence will never make friends in own server or nearly Almost never make any in same server----- this loses the aspect of the server social part----- then he will quit because this turns into a single man game cuz he doesnt know anyone except players from other server witch he will probably most likely never run into them again.
    You are stating this eventuality like it's fact. It is not, all the information we have points towards it will allow for people to search cross servers. It does not mean people will automatically use it as a crutch, especially if the normal party search works fine and people in general are friendly. Nothing kills a community faster then people looking down on newbies and making them feel unwelcome or at worst stupid. (Which you will find in WoW)

    And guess what? People in WoW never talked to newbies soloing their quests BEFORE the finder either... Therefore I am not buying this was the reason WoW's community died. To me it was already pretty vacant other then my guild chat... I've easily made more friends in every other MMO that wasn't wow regardless if it was Guild Wars, CoH, EQ2, Age of Conan, LotrO, name the MMO really...

    WoW is just not newbie friendly in a social sense unless you find a guild that's friendly.... Which really was also valid for XI and XIV. Except in XIV I've actually made friends just walking around..

    Personally I hope this cross server thing allows us to add people from other servers on our friend's list so we can keep tabs on our new friends and see if they are available for other stuff later on. How about we think of the good things that could come with this instead of always focusing on the mistakes/failures of a previous template?
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cendres View Post
    You are stating this eventuality like it's fact. It is not, all the information we have points towards it will allow for people to search cross servers. It does not mean people will automatically use it as a crutch, especially if the normal party search works fine and people in general are friendly. Nothing kills a community faster then people looking down on newbies and making them feel unwelcome or at worst stupid. (Which you will find in WoW)

    And guess what? People in WoW never talked to newbies soloing their quests BEFORE the finder either... Therefore I am not buying this was the reason WoW's community died. To me it was already pretty vacant other then my guild chat... I've easily made more friends in every other MMO that wasn't wow regardless if it was Guild Wars, CoH, EQ2, Age of Conan, LotrO, name the MMO really...

    WoW is just not newbie friendly in a social sense unless you find a guild that's friendly.... Which really was also valid for XI and XIV. Except in XIV I've actually made friends just walking around..

    Personally I hope this cross server thing allows us to add people from other servers on our friend's list so we can keep tabs on our new friends and see if they are available for other stuff later on. How about we think of the good things that could come with this instead of always focusing on the mistakes/failures of a previous template?
    I do not share your optimism :/
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    I do not share your optimism :/
    Awwww! *hugs* Well I hope it turns out for the best anyway! =^.^= If not I'll be on here raging about it too. Or at least trying to see if we can figure out a way to fix it so it does work FOR the community and not against it.
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  4. #34
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    I want that feature. Am tired to not have a lot to do on week. There's only dungeons OR farming. I rather do dungeons over and over till I puke or knock out and drink to much redbull to say "OMG MY HEART GONNA DIE!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfarzoso View Post
    I want that feature. Am tired to not have a lot to do on week. There's only dungeons OR farming. I rather do dungeons over and over till I puke or knock out and drink to much redbull to say "OMG MY HEART GONNA DIE!"
    You can do that without CF?
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    You can do that without CF?
    Fuck that people too busy to craft in Ul'dah!
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  7. #37
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    I think the anima teleport is cool because it is an advantage for the casual player. If you load up on leves and teleport/return/teleport/return like a crazy person, you're going to run out of anima soon enough and it's going to take awhile to regenerate. I think immersion is important, but I do not enjoy running marathons on my chocobo.

    It's nice knowing that if I don't want to play this game every waking moment of my life, I can get up, have a coffee, enjoy a bar of rested exp, and spend a few hours running leves and have it be easy and efficient.

    That said, I don't really know anything about the dungeon finder :/
    This game has also gotten LOADS better in the last... 6 months? A lot of interesting and thoughtful changes have been implemented recently, so I will trust the dev teams judgment for now until I see how it pans out myself.
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  8. #38
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    Erika Indira
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    content finder in FFXIV will end up being alot of failed attempts like a getting a pickup party for stuff now. unless they make easier content which i think they will by the time 2.0 comes out, people will cry about the game being too hard when the ps3 verson finally comes out then SE will gimp everything so everyone can get everything in no time.
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  9. #39
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    Nuinn Nomi
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    I'm sure I won't be the only one wanting to socialize on my own server. Besides, I can't really make any bonds with people who don't want to bond right now either. I've done some parties with people after the merge, most of which have been 'mute' as people either don't care to respond or just chit-chat while waiting for the party to form. From my own experience, it's not like right now random people care much about the social aspect beside getting into the party, grinding levels or content, leaving the party - and at least 5 out of the 8 won't say anything besides (Hello!) and (Thank you!)(Party)(See you again!). There's exceptions of course, and those kind of people are the ones I'm interested in within the community. I'd like to think the same kind of people would be found on the server post-content finder, if we ever get one.

    I don't really consider it to have an 'organic' feel if I know about someone who I partied with but who never spoke or interacted with any of the other 7 players in a party. Really have no use or benefit to me seeing that person day in - day out running around Ul'dah and if I happen to party with them again still say nothing. But that's perhaps just me. . . .
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    Tyler Wevlum
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    As someone who accepts pickup shouts a lot for content rather than having an ls...I don't care if the people are from another server. Although studies show content finder will cause dalamud to impact us faster and harder.

    Content finder or no content finder, from my server or not from my server...ultimately I'm still glaring at you for waking up my slept mob with all the intensity of a thousand suns and yes I do loathe your inner being D:
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    Last edited by Wevlum; 04-13-2012 at 06:39 PM.
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