LuckyBancho data shows that FF14 is in decline

[Payadopa]

It will never not be funny to me how modern gamers are so mindbroken that they think achievements are content, and then try invoke them as a purity test when someone criticizes the quality or replayability of a feature.

I agree. Some activities involve countless hours of boring grind but a single ding and a platinum achievement showing up somehow makes it retroactively worth it? Same can be said for people who do [dungeon] 10 times because it's 30 seconds faster. Like, nah. You either design it so it's fun to do or you don't put it in the game.

And XIV should take a very hard look at DR and dungeons among many other things in that regard. I'm sorry, but if you think running the same dungeon again and again while pressing AoE #1 and #2 is fun then you have no taste. It's the RPG equivalent of white noise. It's okay to have it I guess, but it shouldn't be the primary source of "entertainment".

[Noumenon]

There's nothing that anyone here needs to do anything about.

It's just a talking point and there are a lot of different opinions as usual.

Please don't disguise this as different opinions.

Virtually no one is satisfied by the state of Endwalker, your opinion is in the extreme minority.

There are no different opinions. There is the majority opinion and the minority contrarians who argue for the sake of arguing.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Please don't disguise this as different opinions.

Virtually no one is satisfied by the state of Endwalker, your opinion is in the extreme minority.

There are no different opinions. There is the majority opinion and the minority contrarians who argue for the sake of arguing.

So basically "I'm gonna ignore anyone who doesn't agree with me as they aren't valid enough". Classic forum tactics I tell ya.
"There are no different opinions" yet you're in a thread...full of different opinions...on a site...full of different opinions...
And even point out yourself there's AT LEAST 2 different opinions...but you try to be sly and just call em "contrarians". Frankly, Lotta bs spewing out your mouth bud

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

Once again, no one said the game is dying. Not a single person in this thread said that.

Were you one of those kids who put your finger right in front of your little sister’s face and jeered, “I’m not touching you! I’m not touching you!” Because you are really serving that vibe right now.

[Noumenon]

So basically "I'm gonna ignore anyone who doesn't agree with me as they aren't valid enough". Classic forum tactics I tell ya.
"There are no different opinions" yet you're in a thread...full of different opinions...on a site...full of different opinions...
And even point out yourself there's AT LEAST 2 different opinions...but you try to be sly and just call em "contrarians". Frankly, Lotta bs spewing out your mouth bud

And I should take you seriously because?

Man do I love me some doom posting.

And we're still doom posting

take your doom saying to 4chan or something xD

Well the folks who have issues are just a loud minority

[Kaliesto]

Don't see the point of using luckyBancho when some of the forum don't agree with it.

[Stormpeaks]

Don't see the point of using luckyBancho when some of the forum don't agree with it.

I mean if we go that route, and we have to take into account every single player in the game that they might disagree with it, why are we even posting ?

In fact, why are you posting ? I don't agree with you, and yet you're posting

see how that goes ?

[MsMisato]

Don't see the point of using luckyBancho when some of the forum don't agree with it.

Its good indicator of the population since it goes by completed MSQ achievements. What it can't do is different between actual active accounts vs active accounts with multiple alts. the ere is a huge difference in number of active characters vs active paid accounts but SE doesn't release those numbers publicly it why they always go by active players aka characters but luckybancho gives us a good idea thats all.

[CNitsah]

Don't see the point of using luckyBancho when some of the forum don't agree with it.

It's a pretty good indicator. There is no reason to think suddenly, 50k people put their achievement in private. There is also no reason to think there was proportionally far more players in private in ShB than now. But yeah you shouldn't take the numbers as they are. maybe the fall is only 25 or 28% and not 33. But it indicate a fall in player engagment.

And when you put it with other hints like the data from steam, the general mood on the forum and with content creators, the fact that suddenly there are dozens of houses available after being nearly impossible to get one for a long period of time(I checked the goblet, Shirogane and the Noscea one, and very few are complete. Most zone have between 1 and 7 or 8 houses on 30 available - with the record being 15 free houses), it becomes hard to deny there isn't some sort of loss of interest and disengagement that is stronger than the normal loss during a patch cycle.

At least this metric has the advantage of taking infos indifferently from steam, not steam and playstation. Its default is too not differentiate alts from main accounts, but in absence of official data, that's probably one of the best metric that was presented on this forum lately.

[Sebazy]

And when you put it with other hints like the data from steam, the general mood on the forum and with content creators, the fact that suddenly there are dozens of houses available after being nearly impossible to get one for a long period of time(I checked the goblet, Shirogane and the Noscea one, and very few are complete. Most zone have between 1 and 7 or 8 houses on 30 available - with the record being 15 free houses), it becomes hard to deny there isn't some sort of loss of interest and disengagement that is stronger than the normal loss during a patch cycle.

The housing thing is a definite clear omen yeah. On Ragnarok open plots were a rarity, and when they popped up they would be highly contested. Now in my ward alone there's 4 open slots and the biggest surprise for me was that last I checked, those plots had no bids whatsoever.

Again, it's not cold hard numbers for sure. But when all these little things are all pointing to the same problem, you've got to start wondering.