The State of Endwalker: A 2 year Recap.

[SannaR]

The guy doesn't even understand that a very popular at the time podcast that had over thousands of listeners and regularly 500 people in their chat said the same things he said about the game and Endwalker back during the middle of Stormblood. That the five hosts pretty much all agreed that the formula was too predictable, the content wasn't fun or challenging, and that the devs needed to innovate.

[Nebelheim]

And the perfect counter to the current state of how cringe FFXIV has become is the fact that CBU3 went on to make a game that was almost entirely aligned with my tastes and interests in FFXVI. If you want to claim some kind of victory in FFXIV as the game continues to spiral further and further away from what brought players like me to it then you are free to do so. But FFXVI gave me everything I wanted that was ripped away from FFXIV.

I stand by everything I've said. If anything, I am more entrenched than ever in my opinions and delight in the fact that I have a recent mainline FF title that validates them all. And I maintain that FFXIV would have been better off not catering to the crowd that dragged it down to it's current state. They can do so much better, and I hope that someday in the distant future after DT has had it's predictable outcome that a return to form in XIV finally happens.

First things first they need to figure out how to make content and gameplay that doesn't turn people off after a few hours though. Until that happens there's no game here, only a visual novel akin to the FFXIV AU High School manga.

I don't get how you can enjoy ff16 but not ff14 when there stories and questing are structured exactly the same with how they tell the stories. The only difference is ff16 has more mature scenes and shows off character deaths in better ways. I don't have problems with your post or you in general but it's also hard to take your words seriously when you keep going back on your word of quitting for good and can't see how very similar ff16 is to ff14. FF16 doesn't even feel like a rpg it plays like god of war and devil may cry the only rpg elements it really has is it's questing and story structure.

[Aldath]

I don't get how you can enjoy ff16 but not ff14 when there stories and questing are structured exactly the same with how they tell the stories. The only difference is ff16 has more mature scenes and shows off character deaths in better ways. I don't have problems with your post or you in general but it's also hard to take your words seriously when you keep going back on your word of quitting for good and can't see how very similar ff16 is to ff14. FF16 doesn't even feel like a rpg it plays like god of war and devil may cry the only rpg elements it really has is it's questing and story structure.

This.
Also ironic this guy calls XIV cringe when XVI has "hello fellow kids!" levels of "maturity" and the last half is ARR meets Naruto's final arc.

[Nebelheim]

This.
Also ironic this guy calls XIV cringe when XVI has "hello fellow kids!" levels of "maturity" and the last half is ARR meets Naruto's final arc.

The more mature scenes is almost like a early teen swearing for the first time or watching there first adult film or trying to write there first erotic novel. FF16 is so much like ff14 down to even how the story and sidequest works but apparently ff14 is "too cringe". I agree that the scions at this point are annoying and would like new characters to join our adventures but i can't dismiss the fact the ff16 plays just like ff14 but with a different combat. If ff14 is "cringe" ff16 has cringe levels of mature scenes with how they play out. I can tell they weren't use to writing mature scenes and it showed considering it was the first mainline game in the series with a mature rating.

[Naraku_Diabolos]

Are we playing the same games here? I could have sworn that I’ve been having fun with FFXIV up to this point. I don’t see these faults that everyone else sees, and I’m a Legacy player (I’ve been subscribed to the game since 1.0 early access on September 20, 2010). Some of the content can be flawed by anyone’s standards, but I take no beef for this game. I love the Endwalker post-expansion story as I’m eager to see what happens to the 13th and the Flood of Darkness. If you are going to cherry-pick at FFXIV, you haven’t been invested in the game as long as I have.

Now I’m also a FFXI veteran, and I openly criticize that game and make fun of it, even though I sometimes go back to play it every now and then. To make fun of it, there’s no ambient shadows in the game; the trees don’t even have shadows! But I’ll be damned that the game still is fun and challenging despite how it looks.

[Aldath]

Are we playing the same games here? I could have sworn that I’ve been having fun with FFXIV up to this point. I don’t see these faults that everyone else sees, and I’m a Legacy player (I’ve been subscribed to the game since 1.0 early access on September 20, 2010). Some of the content can be flawed by anyone’s standards, but I take no beef for this game. I love the Endwalker post-expansion story as I’m eager to see what happens to the 13th and the Flood of Darkness. If you are going to cherry-pick at FFXIV, you haven’t been invested in the game as long as I have.

Now I’m also a FFXI veteran, and I openly criticize that game and make fun of it, even though I sometimes go back to play it every now and then. To make fun of it, there’s no ambient shadows in the game; the trees don’t even have shadows! But I’ll be damned that the game still is fun and challenging despite how it looks.

I'm having fun so far as well, but the lack of attention the new player experience has isn't very good for the longevity of the product, considering Dawntrail might be yet again a big starting point for many.

Most of my concerns are from a new player perspective, it's gonna be very different from a legacy player's. I'm having to go through hundreds of hours of story content which SE has barely done any effort to revitalize outside of new Última and DS. But the time new players make it to Dawntrail they will run into the same issues I'll run into when I reach EW. I don't believe having the finale of a 10 year saga be over before the cinematic climax to be very good for new players, nor it is the long queues for off-Msq content like Rathalos, Nier Raids or Omega. And don't get me started on the people who can't complete the Bozja storyline...

Wonder why SE doesn't use Gaia more often despite her being a fan favorite and being part of Normal difficulty content?

[Boblawblah]

Wonder why SE doesn't use Gaia more often despite her being a fan favorite and being part of Normal difficulty content?

It'd be a bit weird to have the Kingdom Hearts crossover npc in the main story quests no?

[Aldath]

It'd be a bit weird to have the Kingdom Hearts crossover npc in the main story quests no?

Huh? She's not from KH, but the guy that made the game designed her. Nomura loves attention so he made her extremely hot--- I mean, different.

[Boblawblah]

Huh? She's not from KH, but the guy that made the game designed her. Nomura loves attention so he made her extremely hot--- I mean, different.

I know I was just mocking her design. She's so over the top, as soon as I saw her I immediately thought of KH.

[Nebelheim]

I know I was just mocking her design. She's so over the top, as soon as I saw her I immediately thought of KH.

The goth design and the amount of belts Nomura puts on his character designs gave Lulu from ff10 vibes with gaia.