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    Tanis_Ebonhart's Avatar
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    Casuals are content with normal and extreme difficulties.

    Midcore are those building up to Savages. Extremes aren't a challenge for them anymore.

    The Hardcore are those that beat the Savages and doing or trying to do Ultimates.

    That's for just dungeon/raid/trial content.

    Crafters are an entirely different beast when it comes to this. Then there are the House owners and the RPers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Casuals are content with normal and extreme difficulties.

    Midcore are those building up to Savages. Extremes aren't a challenge for them anymore.

    The Hardcore are those that beat the Savages and doing or trying to do Ultimates.

    That's for just dungeon/raid/trial content.

    Crafters are an entirely different beast when it comes to this. Then there are the House owners and the RPers.
    I wouldn't say casuals do Extremes. Extremes as "casual" shows probably you are harder core and view these as super easy for the people who play sporatically and aren't that invested in the game, or just like chill content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I wouldn't say casuals do Extremes. Extremes as "casual" shows probably you are harder core and view these as super easy for the people who play sporatically and aren't that invested in the game, or just like chill content.
    Anybody can clear Extreme, when I did a tiny bit of raiding and content a few months back, I was done with the ex in about an hour or so, just by doing PF

    Extreme isnt hard, it's casual content at its best, even ultimates and savage can be PF'd, technically making them midcore content and not hardcore content, there is no time constraint, no time schedule to respect, log in, jump into PF and do savage/ultimate
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I wouldn't say casuals do Extremes. Extremes as "casual" shows probably you are harder core and view these as super easy for the people who play sporatically and aren't that invested in the game, or just like chill content.
    Yeah I agree on this. Casuals don't tend to do things that live in PF. And I need to go back and do the previous ones this expansion but Golbez with his body checks definitely isn't something that more casual players are going to be tackling.

    I think part of the issue is the idea that it's just time or commitment that determines the type of content something is. You can PF EX, Savage, and even some early Ultimates now I think I've seen in PF. But those pieces of content aren't casual just because they're possible with a random group in PF because there is still prep work and coordination required to be successful at them. I do think we tend to judge content level based on where we are ourselves and our own perceptions of what we are, too. I'm doing Savage this tier and having a blast but it's been very difficult to not still think of myself as casually minded because what I want most of all out of content is being able to engage with it when I want to and not feeling it's something I have to do or is a chore I need to get through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Casuals are content with normal and extreme difficulties.

    Midcore are those building up to Savages. Extremes aren't a challenge for them anymore.
    Wut? o.O

    "casuals" and "extremes"?

    I think this is an example of someone being far enough out of the mainstream that they think the mainstream is more like them than it is.

    Extremes are midcore content, and (depending on who you ask) on the higher end of midcore. No Savages are midcore aside from some of the 1/5/9 entry bosses for a tier. Generally speaking, casuals don't touch Extremes at all.

    This is kind of like hearing a person who makes $500,000 a year commenting how everyone makes and spends at least $200,000 a year, not realizing the vast majority of the public doesn't even make six figures, and the poor sometimes don't even make 5. (There are tons of people that legitimately make less than $10k a year).
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