Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Boblawblah]

Just act like a normal person, and you won't get called out

Okay, you must be joking. You can't honestly think that following a poster around and digging through their post history to make memes out of them for literally every comment they make is normal. Going so far to use internet archives to call them out on a changed post solely to mock them ISN'T normal.

[R041]

Okay, you must be joking. You can't honestly think that following a poster around and digging through their post history to make memes out of them for literally every comment they make is normal. Going so far to use internet archives to call them out on a changed post solely to mock them ISN'T normal.

What is this, some kinda XIV Forums hitman delusion? THE INTERNET ARCHIVES!? lol



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[Noumenon]

Okay, you must be joking. You can't honestly think that following a poster around and digging through their post history to make memes out of them for literally every comment they make is normal. Going so far to use internet archives to call them out on a changed post solely to mock them ISN'T normal.

You worried someone will make a collage of your stupid posts next?

[Shurrikhan]

Okay, you must be joking. You can't honestly think that following a poster around and digging through their post history to make memes out of them for literally every comment they make is normal. Going so far to use internet archives to call them out on a changed post solely to mock them ISN'T normal.

Wouldn't the very response you're talking about have already made clear simply that he just hadn't yet refreshed his tab? That's not exactly a deep dive through the interwebs...

[ZephyrMenodora]

Okay, you must be joking. You can't honestly think that following a poster around and digging through their post history to make memes out of them for literally every comment they make is normal. Going so far to use internet archives to call them out on a changed post solely to mock them ISN'T normal.

You aren't wrong. Not sure why every time Rentharis posts its some conversation for several pages about his posting style, things he posted in the past that have nothing to do with the current topic, or just random insults. Some I think are more on the forums for drama and insults than any real discussion I imagine.

[Theodric]

16 was fantastic right up until they finished the first foray into zanbreque when they decided to dump the game of thrones style story for the most generic JRPG “kill the evil god” plotline they could one up with

Yet despite doing a 180 on storyline they still didn’t drop the most uninspired take on slavery I think I’ve ever seen and continued to drill it into our heads every second, they didn’t even use that plotline effectively

I lost interest around the same point. I think Tales of Arise handled similar subject matter with more nuance and maturity. I did like quite a few of the characters in FFXVI in terms of their design and personalities but much like with Endwalker I just didn't think the payoff was worth it in the end.

Add in very little in the way of exploration, no real cities to run around in, no additional party members and a lack of side activities and it became a genuine struggle to finish it.

Dion was the highlight of the game for me and even he was drastically underused.

It did also shed some interesting light on certain design decisions that carry over between both FFXIV and FFXVI.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I can't find who said this before - it may have even been another thread. But I was quite happy with XVI before I played BG3. To think I almost cancelled my BG3 pre-order bcause I didn't think I'd like a DND game lol.

So, pre-BG3 I thought XVI was good enough. After the experience sunk in more, I was very disappointed in the lack of exploring the cities. They made a pretty big deal about them in cutscenes and they all had the crystals looming over them, only to experience them as cooridtors like a FFXIV dungeon would be. Really missed opportunity to explore anything larger than a small village...

I still did like Clive as a protagonist and the spectacles of the Eikons, but also felt the story was far more interesting early on. It would have been better IMO if the story focused on combatting the empire and human greed for power at the expense of the land and all the drama between nations. I'd prefer that the Crystal's origins were never really explained, and Ultima was not a plot device at all as that character did nothing for me.

[Boblawblah]

I enjoyed the prologue of FFXVI, I thought they were going to actually do something different, and the tone was incredible, but then the wheels started falling off almost immediately after. Side quests that were FFXIV style, main story quests that were straight up side quests (I HATE YOU MID), political intrigue that was essentially meaningless because big alien god boss, anime romances, awful female characters, combat that was pointlessly complex (all the fancy combos only work against enemies that you don't need to do the fancy combos???). Oh yea, the 'spectacle' that everyone praises, yea, that's called watching a movie. The boss fights were just long quick time events. Yuck.

Hey, at least it's better than XIII though, not that that's saying much.

I don't hate it as much as it sounds like, but I expect so much more from a mainline entry.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I enjoyed the prologue of FFXVI, I thought they were going to actually do something different, and the tone was incredible, but then the wheels started falling off almost immediately after. Side quests that were FFXIV style, main story quests that were straight up side quests (I HATE YOU MID), political intrigue that was essentially meaningless because big alien god boss, anime romances, awful female characters, combat that was pointlessly complex (all the fancy combos only work against enemies that you don't need to do the fancy combos???). Oh yea, the 'spectacle' that everyone praises, yea, that's called watching a movie. The boss fights were just long quick time events. Yuck.

Hey, at least it's better than XIII though, not that that's saying much.

I don't hate it as much as it sounds like, but I expect so much more from a mainline entry.

Agree with a lot of this. I really was enjoying some of the darker, more serious tone and story beats. But then as you said it just unravelled into typical ridiculousness by the end, and I found the end of the game to be pretty much nonsense.

I was okay doing the side quests the first time, but they were largely very boring game-play wise. I suffered through them as I liked the characters enough - but a lot of what they had you do was dull. They should have cut a good portion of these and made a few more meaningful quests instead. As they are, they make me not really want to do a 2nd playthrough as much.

[FenyxRising]

You aren't wrong. Not sure why every time Rentharis posts its some conversation for several pages about his posting style, things he posted in the past that have nothing to do with the current topic, or just random insults. Some I think are more on the forums for drama and insults than any real discussion I imagine.

Maybe because he offends everyone with how he talks ? Hmm ?

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