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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    WHAT. MECHANIC. ARE. YOU. REFERRING. TO.

    Because I can tell you what it’s tell is if you stop dodging the question
    Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
    Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time away from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    They won't answer because then people can disprove it without a shadow of a doubt.

    Not saying mods that tell you what you need to do don't exist...but we are saying THIS instance did not happen.
    Remind me...what were you saying again?

    Addendum

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    When energy assault is about to occur the boss will turn in a specific direction regardless of where the tank is standing (a common tell a mechanic is about to happen) then he will contract and start spitting out the AOE’s, you generally have about 3 seconds to resolve it before you get hit and they specifically don’t do much damage so you can afford to get clipped by 1 or 2 trying to get out of them

    It’s a rather short tell but the idea is there is no reason to be far away from that boss except in the rotating satellite phase so if you stay close to him it’s easy to dodge the mechanic
    I literally saw the cheater move away from the player who was going to be targeted 5+ seconds before the boss even changed the direction he was facing to the opposite side! Mostly every other player in the raid did not move for the aoe until they saw the direction change of the boss like everyone else. Yet you want to still claim that this was done without addons? Yea right...

    I get so freaking tired of others making excuses for those who cheat!(Because more than likely they are a cheater themself!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Well there you go. Supersnow finally got a mechanic name and told ya what you need to do. Like 99.9 percent of these are scripted dances...you learn the steps and you become so good people start to assume you are cheating.
    WRONG! He explained nothing on how another player can move 5+ seconds from the targeted player to the opposite side while most of the other players in raid only moved once the boss moved the direction it faced for the aoe!
    Keep making excuses for cheaters...I find it very sus why you do!
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    Last edited by TheRealMadruck; 09-11-2023 at 12:53 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
    Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time way from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!
    When energy assault is about to occur the boss will turn in a specific direction regardless of where the tank is standing (a common tell a mechanic is about to happen) then he will contract and start spitting out the AOE’s, you generally have about 3 seconds to resolve it before you get hit and they specifically don’t do much damage so you can afford to get clipped by 1 or 2 trying to get out of them

    It’s a rather short tell but the idea is there is no reason to be far away from that boss except in the rotating satellite phase so if you stay close to him it’s easy to dodge the mechanic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    When energy assault is about to occur the boss will turn in a specific direction regardless of where the tank is standing (a common tell a mechanic is about to happen) then he will contract and start spitting out the AOE’s, you generally have about 3 seconds to resolve it before you get hit and they specifically don’t do much damage so you can afford to get clipped by 1 or 2 trying to get out of them

    It’s a rather short tell but the idea is there is no reason to be far away from that boss except in the rotating satellite phase so if you stay close to him it’s easy to dodge the mechanic
    It also has a cast bar.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post



    Remind me...what were you saying again?
    Well there you go. Supersnow finally got a mechanic name and told ya what you need to do. Like 99.9 percent of these are scripted dances...you learn the steps and you become so good people start to assume you are cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
    Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time away from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!



    Remind me...what were you saying again?

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    I literally saw the cheater move away from the player who was going to be targeted 5+ seconds before the boss even changed the direction he was facing to the opposite side! Mostly every other player in the raid did not move for the aoe until they saw the direction change of the boss like everyone else. Yet you want to still claim that this was done without addons? Yea right...

    I get so freaking tired of others making excuses for those who cheat!(Because more than likely they are a cheater themself!)



    WRONG! He explained nothing on how another player can move 5+ seconds from the targeted player to the opposite side while most of the other players in raid only moved once the boss moved the direction it faced for the aoe!
    Keep making excuses for cheaters...I find it very sus why you do!
    Or Or Or Or and hear me out here, that person knew that mechanic was next (because it comes out at the same time every time) and went “hey if I’m away from the party there is less chance it’ll target me and so less chance I have to move

    You know the same way a smart person resolves any mechanic targeted on a single person
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Or Or Or Or and hear me out here, that person knew that mechanic was next (because it comes out at the same time every time) and went “hey if I’m away from the party there is less chance it’ll target me and so less chance I have to move

    You know the same way a smart person resolves any mechanic targeted on a single person
    OP also said it was another tank and I'm definitely not out in Narnia if I'm not the MT. Energy Assault is also pretty obvious even before the cast bar starts and all a tank has to do is slide a couple steps over if they aren't out in Narnia.

    Not that there aren't the things described by the OP. Just doesn't sound like this instance was necessarily an example of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
    Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time away from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!
    Guess personally knowing when the cone may come and not be in the player dogpile which is more likely to be targeted is mod/add-on cheating.

    Oh dear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
    Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time away from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!
    Farm it repeatedly. Whilst the direction it turns may be 'random' (Aka generally facing into the dogile behind), the sequence absolutely isn't.

    Could they have been using a timeline? Sure why not. But could they also have been trying to farm it for a specific piece of gear and were on the umpteenth run of the day, thus knew the mechanic was coming by references such as where they were in their rotation? Also very likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
    Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time away from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!
    I took the liberty of checking out the Cactbot code which covers this ability.

    It looks like Cactbot just spits out a 'Get Behind' when the specific ability 'Starts Using' in the combat log, so it doesn't actually seem to be a case of it accessing information that is obfuscated to the player.

    That is to say, this is not an instance where Cactbot usage would actually be apparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I took the liberty of checking out the Cactbot code which covers this ability.

    It looks like Cactbot just spits out a 'Get Behind' when the specific ability 'Starts Using' in the combat log, so it doesn't actually seem to be a case of it accessing information that is obfuscated to the player.

    That is to say, this is not an instance where Cactbot usage would actually be apparent.
    Clearly if you react to an ability before even cactbot does, you must be extra cheating! /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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