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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Which raid? Because I'm drawing a blank on intro bosses that aren't completely predictable if you fought them enough times.
    It was a Nier raid. And all 3 of the first bosses from each of those raids has AOES that in no way could another player move to a precise safe location before even the visual or audio alerts are given by 5+ seconds.
    Again believe me or not...it does not matter. The general player base knows these addons exist and to pretend otherwise is kinda lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    It was a Nier raid. And all 3 of the first bosses from each of those raids has AOES that in no way could another player move to a precise safe location before even the visual or audio alerts are given by 5+ seconds.
    Again believe me or not...it does not matter. The general player base knows these addons exist and to pretend otherwise is kinda lol.
    So it was either the robot on wobbly stilts, the pillar with wings, or the poo titan... which are all extremely predictable...

    It's not a matter of people pretending tools don't exist. It's that we can see this story of yours is a complete fabrication.
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    Between the first boss of the three nier raids I can’t think of a single cryptic mechanic

    The closest I can think of to a cryptic mechanic in the first boss of an alliance raid would either be the proximity AOE’s on void blizzard 4 encouraging you to run far away from the icicles when they form the safe zone on dun scaith boss 1 or mustadio making it not 100% clear if you should face the hole or the rest towards him
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    So it was either the robot on wobbly stilts, the pillar with wings, or the poo titan... which are all extremely predictable...

    It's not a matter of people pretending tools don't exist. It's that we can see this story of yours is a complete fabrication.
    I am so super confused. Like, they are talking about AoEs.... Does he mean the central or side AOEs, from the 1st boss in Copied Factory? The one that, if you watch the cast bar, tells you whether it is centrifugal or sidestriking? You know, central being central and side being side?? no, there is no telegraph... other than the cast bar???
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    I am so super confused. Like, they are talking about AoEs.... Does he mean the central or side AOEs, from the 1st boss in Copied Factory? The one that, if you watch the cast bar, tells you whether it is centrifugal or sidestriking? You know, central being central and side being side?? no, there is no telegraph... other than the cast bar???
    Given that he's been deliberately avoiding naming the specific raid or boss, I would just ignore it. The entire story reeks of "someone played better than me so they must be a cheater".
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Given that he's been deliberately avoiding naming the specific raid or boss, I would just ignore it. The entire story reeks of "someone played better than me so they must be a cheater".
    I am hoping, somehow, he is sitting at his desk thinking "wait..... the boss has a cast bar???? and that's how you identify mechanics with no telegraphs???".... but you are probably right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    So it was either the robot on wobbly stilts, the pillar with wings, or the poo titan... which are all extremely predictable...

    It's not a matter of people pretending tools don't exist. It's that we can see this story of yours is a complete fabrication.
    Or...here is just a thought...you are dishonestly claiming that all mechanics from the first 3 bosses are fully predicatable because you yourself maybe uses addons and you get upset when legit players speak out against cheaters. Most players will know you are lying just by reading how certain aoes from those fights ARE RANDOM and no way "extremely predictable" for someone to move 5+ seconds before the visual and audio prompts are either seen or heard to move to a specific location from the aoe. But hey...who knows right?!?!
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...Copied_Factory
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...pets%27_Bunker
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...igm%27s_Breach


    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Between the first boss of the three nier raids I can’t think of a single cryptic mechanic

    The closest I can think of to a cryptic mechanic in the first boss of an alliance raid would either be the proximity AOE’s on void blizzard 4 encouraging you to run far away from the icicles when they form the safe zone on dun scaith boss 1 or mustadio making it not 100% clear if you should face the hole or the rest towards him
    Here is a list of the raids:
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...Copied_Factory
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...pets%27_Bunker
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...igm%27s_Breach

    Feel free to read and watch videos about the mechanics. Then please explain how someone can move 5+ seconds before the visual/audio prompts are even known for a player to be able to move to a safe location ahead of time from the random aoes that these bosses have.
    Also, please feel free to watch this video showing how these illegal addons do exactly how I claim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFSD...channel=TaruTV
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    Last edited by TheRealMadruck; 09-11-2023 at 12:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Or...here is just a thought...you are dishonestly claiming that all mechanics from the first 3 bosses are fully predicatable because you yourself maybe uses addons and you get upset when legit players speak out against cheaters. Most players will know you are lying just by reading how certain aoes from those fights ARE RANDOM to and no way "extremely predictable" for someone to move 5+ seconds before the visual and audio prompts are either seen or heard. But hey...who knows?!?!
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...Copied_Factory
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...pets%27_Bunker
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...igm%27s_Breach

    And maybe its because you hate that a person like myself who doesn't cheat and more than likely you do gets


    Here is a list of the raids:
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...Copied_Factory
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...pets%27_Bunker
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...igm%27s_Breach

    Feel free to read and watch videos about the mechanics. Then please explain how someone can move 5+ seconds before the visual/audio prompts are even known for a player to be able to move to a safe location ahead of time from the random aoes that these bosses have.
    Also, please feel free to watch this video showing how these illegal addons do exactly how I claim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFSD...channel=TaruTV
    WHAT. MECHANIC. ARE. YOU. REFERRING. TO.

    Because I can tell you what it’s tell is if you stop dodging the question
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    WHAT. MECHANIC. ARE. YOU. REFERRING. TO.

    Because I can tell you what it’s tell is if you stop dodging the question
    They won't answer because then people can disprove it without a shadow of a doubt.

    Not saying mods that tell you what you need to do don't exist...but we are saying THIS instance did not happen.
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    Regardless of what specific mechanic OP is referring to, the main point is simply about using mods to cheat in general. I don't see the point in getting angry and quibbling over details. If it's possible to do that in ANY content, then OP has made their point. Didn't we just have an incident where someone in a "world first" Ultimate team was caught using mods to cheat?
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