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  1. #21
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Cleric stance is exactly that : a risk-reward skill you had to "commit" to in order to optimize your dps.
    You'd predominantly play within Cleric Stance since you'd have more downtime than uptime (not as badly as now, but still). You'd be "locked into" using only DPS skills for 2 GCDs, but... that's literally just 1 GCD more than simply making the decision in itself. And there was no cooldown between exiting and reentering the stance, you basically never felt the CD. You'd just drop CS, heal as much as needed to be healed, restarted CS in 1 to whatever number of GCDs after having dropped it, and kept throwing fillers and DoTs.

    The "commitment" required was absolutely negligible.
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  2. #22
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    Varilyon's Avatar
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    Lakryma Tyental
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The OP loves braindead logic. It doesnt want to push 1-2-3 or 1-1-1, because of bad gameplay but thinks the pinacle of gameplay was 2-1-2.

    The reason for being in the right: Nobody else cleared any content never ever, since "pic or it didnt happen".
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  3. #23
    Player FenyxRising's Avatar
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    Fenyx Rising
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    You'd predominantly play within Cleric Stance since you'd have more downtime than uptime (not as badly as now, but still). You'd be "locked into" using only DPS skills for 2 GCDs, but... that's literally just 1 GCD more than simply making the decision in itself. And there was no cooldown between exiting and reentering the stance, you basically never felt the CD. You'd just drop CS, heal as much as needed to be healed, restarted CS in 1 to whatever number of GCDs after having dropped it, and kept throwing fillers and DoTs.

    The "commitment" required was absolutely negligible.
    Sounds like you never tried it in Savage, commit at the wrong time and your party wipes.
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  4. #24
    Player ChonkGoblinSuprem's Avatar
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    Kevin Foobar
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    Famfrit
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    Fisher Lv 55
    When I was young, things were better and now things are worse! Men were men and MMO jobs weren’t for little snowflakes!!!

    lmao lmao lmao do you people hear yourselves?
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  5. #25
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    sindriiisgaming's Avatar
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    It really is so simple: The jobs are so braindead and so unfun to play.
    this isnt the reason. its the content thats the issue. the way its made. allways doing pew pew pew and nothing else feels mindnumbing. give us engaging gameplay with things u need to click on. red comet was a great bozja fate.
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  6. #26
    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    It really is so simple:

    The jobs are so braindead and so unfun to play. I had fun playing a Lv 40 dungeon in Heavensward because many jobs back then were complicated, every healer needed to deal with Cleric Stance which means there's so much room to min-max.

    Now, no thanks, when you AoE it's just basically 1-2-3, 1-2-3 on every job (and healers it's 1-1-1-1), that's why FATEs are so boring, why skirmishes are so boring, why Eureka is the most boring thing they released before Pyros actions, etc., probably even more boring than Diadem. Actually what made Anemos fun wasn't the gameplay at all, it's the fact that it was so boring most people AFK and the spawners get upset and complain and people start fights over leeching all the time in shout chat, that was the only fun part of Anemos: when your combat is so boring that people start drama over it.

    How about they make jobs actually fun again ? Hmm ?
    They are not boring. I enjoy everything you listed. How bout you stop playing the game if you don't enjoy it. Do you realize there are tons of games out there. If you are unhappy playing this one move on with your life.
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  7. #27
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    Denji's Avatar
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 86
    wait.
    what.
    did you actually play the game back then it sucked so hard. y'all don't know how good you have it nowadays.

    tho gimmie back aero 3 and stoneskin.
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  8. #28
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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Twintania
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    Cleric Stance sucked and isn't fun and I refuse to take anything anyone championing it says seriously. It is not thrilling to have to press a mode switch button, it's just technical inputs for the sake of having technical inputs.
    I'd take it. Healers are braindead now..
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  9. #29
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Sounds like you never tried it in Savage, commit at the wrong time and your party wipes.
    Within that period I healed Savage T6-T9 and A1-4S and scattered later ones (catboy ended up replacing catgirl for the rest of Alexander, mostly as Tank/Dragoon, but I still subbed in as Monk/Bard/WHM on this toon).

    In ARR, Cleric Stance didn't even affect your oGCDs. In HW, it was still only 1 GCD longer of commitment than just deciding between an attack and a heal. It was a 2-GCD lock-in, and you spent most of your time in it. If someone is put in a situation where they'd unexpectedly die if they aren't healed significantly within a single GCD's time... twice within 5 seconds... that's going to be on them.

    It was essentially bookend bloat-apm for what time you spent healing. Its inability to queue its cancel pairing poorly with less stable internet aside, it was not a challenge, only a chore. It wasn't awful, but it sure as hell wasn't depth.
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  10. #30
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    Vrankyl's Avatar
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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
    World
    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Within that period I healed Savage T6-T9 and A1-4S and scattered later ones (catboy ended up replacing catgirl for the rest of Alexander, mostly as Tank/Dragoon, but I still subbed in as Monk/Bard/WHM on this toon).

    In ARR, Cleric Stance didn't even affect your oGCDs. In HW, it was still only 1 GCD longer of commitment than just deciding between an attack and a heal. It was a 2-GCD lock-in, and you spent most of your time in it. If someone is put in a situation where they'd unexpectedly die if they aren't healed significantly within a single GCD's time... twice within 5 seconds... that's going to be on them.

    It was essentially bookend bloat-apm for what time you spent healing. Its inability to queue its cancel pairing poorly with less stable internet aside, it was not a challenge, only a chore. It wasn't awful, but it sure as hell wasn't depth.
    To make matters worse for Cleric Stance, not only did it not have the ability to queue it's canceling and being nothing more than button bloat there were times where courtesy of server ticks or internet shenanigans it would just refuse to turn off. Then you were stuck trying to frantically get it to turn off before someone actually died because some of those mega pulls in HW got really spicy.
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