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  1. #731
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    AlexiaD's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChonkGoblinSuprem View Post
    There are many other games that have also come out in the past ten years…

    The only reason I’ve even played as much of this game as I have is exactly because the devs are explicitly prioritizing the experience of the new player’s journey through the game over the whims of the hardcore endgame raid meta.
    Good for you, and it was done by sacrificing all the content for veterans in the game.
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  2. #732
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    Good for you, and it was done by sacrificing all the content for veterans in the game.
    Which is itself not a good long term strategy for the game. The veterans are the ones who evangelize the game and get new people to play. The whole free trial copypasta didn't come from nowhere.
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  3. #733
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    Good for you, and it was done by sacrificing all the content for veterans in the game.
    I don't believe for a second that they believe what they are posting. Just posting lazy contrarian takes for the sake of it.

    Hopefully, if Zepla's video has done anything, it's actually made people aware that its actually not a very tiny small minority of players that are not happy with the direction and current state of FFXIV. I don't hate the game, I love FFXIV. But there are current issues that need to be addressed. And, seriously, if you are saying its all good cause there's Stb and Shb content you can do.... I mean, really?!? Do you not see the issue in that?
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  4. #734
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    And what does this have to do with Titanmen and the title of his thread ? He literally just used the name of the video, the thread isnt clickbait.
    I just can't... lol
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  5. #735
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    Good for you, and it was done by sacrificing all the content for veterans in the game.
    "There will be losses, that is true.

    Yet for every veteran who unsubs, another new player can be indoctrinated.

    For every FC that dies, another dance club venue can be built.

    FFXIV will live on."

    This unempathetic guy is insufferable though, honestly. Enjoying the misery of others, particularly when the foundation is of a strawman of their own creation compared to the reality of a nuanced and complicated situation with no easy solution, is emblematic of a mean-spirited individual. If you told me in SB/ShB we'd be in a situation like this, constantly dealing with people like this, I would've called you unnecessarily paranoid. Shows what I knew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestaRosa View Post
    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

  6. #736
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Let me just look at the lodestone here... Yep new player. Just goes to show, new players are fine and it's the veterans who are struggling.
    Correction:

    Troll alt. Too low tier to be Titanmen tbh.
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  7. #737
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Correction:

    Troll alt. Too low tier to be Titanmen tbh.
    He actually has been known to create alternate, contradicting personalities and post as them at the same time. So...who knows.
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  8. #738
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    That's actually what they said that though

    They said you cant run out of backlog lol, and that even new players cant catch up.
    It's literally not what they said. They didn't say "you cant run out of backlog". They literally said:

    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Especially when there's such a backlog of content that new players can basically never catch up in side content,
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yeah you totally didn’t say literally exactly that like 6 posts ago
    Yeah, they didn't.

    So it's not just me, you guys outright make up things you want other people to have said so you can attack weaker arguments than presented. The classic strawman fallacy. I'm not sure if I should feel better or worse that I'm not the only one you guys invent things to attack over.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    I think they were speaking about from a new player perspective. I don't think what they said is particularly that bad though to really dog on them for.
    This is the correct take.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    That isn't the interpretation I got from what they said, but if that's what the rest of you are reading out of it then so be it.
    It's not. Some specific posters are inventing things to accuse people of having said so they can attack and "defeat" those weak arguments. It's a straight up strawman fallacy and deception.

    .

    EDIT: You know the funny thing? I don't even agree with that person - I think having some long-term grindy content is good. But they're absolutely being unfairly attacked.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 09-06-2023 at 06:43 AM. Reason: Marked with EDIT

  9. #739
    Player ChonkGoblinSuprem's Avatar
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    People like you are why I’ve avoided the entire MMORPG genre since I played EverQuest at launch. You aren’t that damn nuanced. The only reason I am playing FF14 is because there isn’t a levelgrind -> endgame mentality apart from a small and very vocal minority. The OP of this thread has posted about ten threads in the past week, but I’m the problem lmao. Keep on gatekeeping on, kiddos.
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  10. #740
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChonkGoblinSuprem View Post
    People like you are why I’ve avoided the entire MMORPG genre since I played EverQuest at launch. You aren’t that damn nuanced. The only reason I am playing FF14 is because there isn’t a levelgrind -> endgame mentality apart from a small and very vocal minority. The OP of this thread has posted about ten threads in the past week, but I’m the problem lmao. Keep on gatekeeping on, kiddos.
    FFXIV + gatekeeping in the same sentence

    ?

    You can literally do ANYTHING you want in the game, there is no gatekeeping anywhere
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