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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Though in this case who cares if the original poster is a memer, the content of the video is what matters and it’s sparked discussion on the forums, I honestly can’t even remember who posted the original post or what person they accuse said person of being an alt of (probably titanmen) because at this point I just engage with the discussion in the last 2-3 pages
    True, it's sparked discussion but the way it was presented by our frequent suspect OP was misleading about Zepla's comments.

    You need to watch at least the first 5 minutes of the video to understand how she feels about the expansion. Rather than sum her feelings up from my perspective, I'd like to encourage those who haven't watched it to watch at least the first 10 minutes.

    Some people dislike Zepla's content and are more than happy to jump to the wrong conclusion as a result. Others are happy to jump to the wrong conclusion because it supports their personal beliefs about the state of the game.

    It's fine if people are sticking to their own beliefs about the expansion in the discussion but it's a problem if they're trying to say "see, Zepla also hates Endwalker" because that's the way the resident troll set up the presentation. That's not what she said at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remish View Post
    I absolutely agree with everything you said in this paragraph. I'm entirely on board with it. The "Go play something else" comments really need to stop. At its root, it's fundamentally a "Go touch grass" statement. It's disrespectful and doesn't address anything whatsoever. I would love to see induvials find ways to be persuasive with why they love the game for what it is right now without being condescending about it.
    To be fair, no one owes you any explanation of why they enjoy the game any more than you owe them an explanation of why you're dissatisfied. Neither side needs to convince the other to change their mind. Our opinions are subjective and personal.

    But everyone should be allowed to express their opinions freely as long as they stay within the forum rules.

    Personally, I'm not here trying to convince people to like the game. I know that not every game is right for every player. It's something every player has to decide for themselves.

    What I'm trying to do is encourage players to become smart consumers. If more players would stick to paying for games only when they genuinely enjoy and believe in the current state of the game, developers and publishers would be less likely to rush out half finished products. They would be more responsive in listening to feedback because to get your money they would have to meet your standards.

    Maybe if game studios and publishers were only getting paid when players actually like what they're making, game quality would increase. If you're going to continue to pay for something you feel is poor in quality, then it shouldn't be surprising that is what continues to be delivered.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-05-2023 at 10:13 AM.