You need to give up on XI-2

[Onidemon]

It's funny how everyone was crying that the game was so broken, then S-E announces 2.0 with a long list of drastic changes and only the XI fanboys keep saying how it will suck or that it's no big deal. Yet whenever they talk it sounds like they haven't even read half the documentation, they just skipped over everything that didn't sound like XI port.... which is pretty much everything.

[Yves]

It's funny how everyone was crying that the game was so broken, then S-E announces 2.0 with a long list of drastic changes and only the XI fanboys keep saying how it will suck or that it's no big deal. Yet whenever they talk it sounds like they haven't even read half the documentation, they just skipped over everything that didn't sound like XI port.... which is pretty much everything.

On the contrary, 2.0 sounds a lot like they took the good components of XI and brought them back while implementing good ideas from other games with some original content (probably not original, tbh.)

I feel bad that people are so divided.

[Rydin]

On the contrary, 2.0 sounds a lot like they took the good components of XI and brought them back while implementing good ideas from other games with some original content (probably not original, tbh.)

I feel bad that people are so divided.

I agree
Yves, stop making me agree with you....
I don't like this

But yes... I am anxious to see 2.0....
(Next part not directed at Yves... just general Commentary)
Since this game technically has 2 FFXI directors still on staff (Even without Tanaka, we still have Akihiko Matsui and Nobuaki Komoto) there is going to be FFXI ideas all throughout. Just how much... Well that's Yoshi's call... And I am ok with that
If you either want all FFXI or None of FFXI then you are probably setting yourself up for disappointment... but if you'd like the devs to find a happy medium... and have an open mind.. you just might enjoy what comes

[Yves]

I agree
Yves, stop making me agree with you....
I don't like this

But yes... I am anxious to see 2.0....
(Next part not directed at Yves... just general Commentary)
Since this game technically has 2 FFXI directors still on staff (Even without Tanaka, we still have Akihiko Matsui and Nobuaki Komoto) there is going to be FFXI ideas all throughout. Just how much... Well that's Yoshi's call... And I am ok with that
If you either want all FFXI or None of FFXI then you are probably setting yourself up for disappointment... but if you'd like the devs to find a happy medium... and have an open mind.. you just might enjoy what comes

Yup, agree again. This is getting weird.

We need to fight aboot something. I dislike your...face? That works, I think.

[Onidemon]

On the contrary, 2.0 sounds a lot like they took the good components of XI and brought them back while implementing good ideas from other games with some original content (probably not original, tbh.)

I feel bad that people are so divided.

What in 2.0 is from XI exactly? I failed to see that it seems....

[Rydin]

What in 2.0 is from XI exactly? I failed to see that it seems....

thats the thing though... if you're excited about 2.0 and you enjoyed the stuff you've read... then who cares where its from?

[Elexia]

I agree
Yves, stop making me agree with you....
I don't like this

But yes... I am anxious to see 2.0....
(Next part not directed at Yves... just general Commentary)
Since this game technically has 2 FFXI directors still on staff (Even without Tanaka, we still have Akihiko Matsui and Nobuaki Komoto) there is going to be FFXI ideas all throughout. Just how much... Well that's Yoshi's call... And I am ok with that
If you either want all FFXI or None of FFXI then you are probably setting yourself up for disappointment... but if you'd like the devs to find a happy medium... and have an open mind.. you just might enjoy what comes

This is why I like you. You actually understand and use common sense. Sadly some people (like the OP) seriously think the fact someone may suggest something FFXI related it'll be a clone or "you're living in the past and need to get over it".

Those recent Imperial Assaults on/near cities? Yeah where does that concept seem familiar? As you said we still have 2 lead XI people and becaise Komoto was on XIV staff I had GREAT hope of the era of CoP would return at the start of the game, what I mean by this is a mix of Challenge ontop of a Great Story with Amazing Rewards (Sea, CoP Rings etc) for your hard work.

thats the thing though... if you're excited about 2.0 and you enjoyed the stuff you've read... then who cares where its from?

Despite the fact he tells us people need to get over FFXI, he's one of the handful of people who constantly belittles the game and those who make suggestions about it and instantly will ignore the fact Yoshida has no doubt been looking toward the last MMO the company he's working for produced.

[Bled]

thats the thing though... if you're excited about 2.0 and you enjoyed the stuff you've read... then who cares where its from?

I try not to post redundantly, however i would like to highlight what Rydin said because he is completely right.

If your excited about 2.0, whether or not you have read the whole roadmap, why care about these small unequivocally stupid arguments on where the content is coming from?

[Yves]

What in 2.0 is from XI exactly? I failed to see that it seems....

Well, aside from the standard features that be present in any MMO (UI, etc.)

1. Familiar zones (via 2.0 concept maps)
2. In-game housing
3. Hamlet (all descriptions are similar to Campaign/Besieged)
4. Traditional primals
5. Release of AH
6. Summoning
7. Taming and pet development
8. Introduction of legacy items
9. Coliseum
10. Alliances

This is excluding mail systems. And this is solely via the roadmap documents. Aside from roadmap items, there are additions that have been confirmed via dev posts such as seek flags and world NMs.

Wait! No way - ALL OF THESE ARE COMMON STAPLES IN ALL MMOS?! The only difference is that it is branded in FF fashion. Why people can't see this is beyond me.

[Rydin]

Well, aside from the standard features that be present in any MMO (UI, etc.)

1. Familiar zones (via 2.0 concept maps)
2. In-game housing
3. Hamlet (all descriptions are similar to Campaign/Besieged)
4. Traditional primals
5. Release of AH
6. Summoning
7. Taming and pet development
8. Introduction of legacy items
9. Coliseum
10. Alliances

This is excluding mail systems. And this is solely via the roadmap documents. Aside from roadmap items, there are additions that have been confirmed via dev posts such as seek flags and world NMs.

Wait! No way - ALL OF THESE ARE COMMON STAPLES IN ALL MMOS?! The only difference is that it is branded in FF fashion. Why people can't see this is beyond me.

Honestly, I never played FFXI.... but you can just look at screen shots of the zones and see the variety and diversity and say "I would love for FFXIV to be that diverse" without being a super FFXI lover
Who wouldn't want diverse landscapes... Thats just one example...

and then there are some new innovations not in FFXI.. like Chocobo's fighting with you and more Unique/untradeable than FFXI had

Its about balance