2 tanks and 4 dps can beat P9?

[Ianmaru]

There are 3 primary aspects that makes these situations meaningfully different:

• Damage determines when a fight is completed, healing determines if a fight is completed*
• DPS roles have lower responsibility than Healers
• DPS roles always has a job to do, while the job Healers have to do is determined by the encounter

Are you talking about FFXIV? Or about a game design that you think ideal? Or some other game?
Because this is definitely not the casual content in FFXIV is. The fact that the game gives some means of HP recovery to tank & dps is so the party can survive without healer. the game gives offensive skills to tank & healer so the party can kill the boss without dps. the game gives personal mitigation tools to dps so the party can survive without tank. the game is trying to make every role equal, so none of the roles feels more important than any other roles, which I personally think a good thing.
In casual content, all the roles equally don't matter.
In hardcore content, all the roles equally matter.

[LilimoLimomo]

Are you talking about FFXIV? Or about a game design that you think ideal?

I encourage you to re-read the details of what I wrote and not just the bullet points; if you do, I think you'll find that what I described is how FF14 plays now. I didn't explicitly state it, but hopefully it's clear that when Healers have less of a job to do, they have proportionately less responsibility. Which leaves us where we are now.

the party gives personal mitigation tools to dps so the party can survive without tank.

These mitigation tools generally have a short duration and a long cooldown. They do not give DPS roles the ability to sustainably act as a tank in at-level content.

The fact that the game gives some means of HP recovery to tank & dps is so the party can survive without healer.

It's only in Endwalker that at-level content has been sustainably survivable with dead healers. And what the intent is, only the devs can say. But in previous expansions, your group wasn't going to survive for long with downed healers in at-level content.

[Ianmaru]

It's only in Endwalker that at-level content has been sustainably survivable with dead healers. And what the intent is, only the devs can say. But in previous expansions, your group wasn't going to survive for long with downed healers in at-level content.

which is an improvement, no? they seem to be moving toward the equality of the roles in terms of importance. you would rather have a game where a certain role has more importance than the other? despite it being inequal? each to their own I guess. but again I personally think it's just fair that a content that can be cleared without dps / tank, can also be cleared without healer.

[LilimoLimomo]

you would rather have a game where a certain role has more importance than the other?

I'm questioning whether you actually read what I wrote, because I explicitly stated my opinion on this and my reasons.

[Ianmaru]

I'm questioning whether you actually read what I wrote, because I explicitly stated my opinion on this and my reasons.

oh yea I did read all of them. what about you though, did you read my first reply completely? everything you said on your reply to me are already answered on my first reply.

actually lemme just answer them one by one