I know y'all don't wanna hear this...

[Moogly]

Why pull slower when there's no reason not to just get it all over with?

That's the real problem, and the reason why those sort of threads are created.
People don't pay attention to who they are playing with, like in any other online game, nothing new.

When running roulette dungeons it is usual to run into people geared enough or largely overgeared making tanking wall to wall and aggressive healer dps easy.
Then for many that habit becomes the norm - things go wrong when you meet a less seasonned/prepared player.
This is especially true for later leveling dungeons - it can become pretty hard to heal or tank the lvl 79/89 dungeons when they still only wear the 400/530 tomestone gear set.
Even pulling wall to wall an expert roulette dungeon could prove challenging for a new tank/healer pair that just met the required min ilvl.

I don't often meet those new players though, so when I do I usually just take a breath and slow down...

[Asako]

When they make Expert dungeons easier than levelling dungeons there is no reason not to pull wall to wall. That's how it has always been and at this point just give up on it changing. Dungeons are muck anyway.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

People need to stop trying to control how other people play the game. Period. If you want tanking or healing done a certain way, play the damn job yourself. Period.

[Supersnow845]

People need to stop trying to control how other people play the game. Period. If you want tanking or healing done a certain way, play the damn job yourself. Period.

But also if I want to go slower I should totally he able to control how everyone else on the dungeon plays with me

[Mcg55ss]

The real problem is that, in the majority of dungeons, trash mobs are so weak that wall pulls are easily doable. Why pull slower when there's no reason not to just get it all over with?

Well my girlfriend's just trying to tank, and w2w scares her a bit. Was she even get scared if we do solo fate that she'll fail and kill me

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

But also if I want to go slower I should totally he able to control how everyone else on the dungeon plays with me

If DPS wants to pull more mobs, they should feel free, but it is not on the tank to draw that enmity if they don’t want to either.

You are not entitled to optimal play from random duty roulette players. If you want things done a certain way, get yourself a damn static or use party finder.

[Supersnow845]

If DPS wants to pull more mobs, they should feel free, but it is not on the tank to draw that enmity if they don’t want to either.

You are not entitled to optimal play from random duty roulette players. If you want things done a certain way, get yourself a damn static or use party finder.

Exactly like I said, your argument boils down to “if you want competency join a preformed group because I shouldn’t have to deal with your expectations but I should be able to freely inflict my incompetency on the party and you just have to tolerate it”

Basically the 14 community in a nutshell, I’ve long since accepted it, I just like to point out y’all’s hypocracy

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

How is it hypocritical? I am not holding others to a high standard while failing to meet that standard myself. I am holding all pubbies to the same low expectation because I’m not a f***ing idiot who wishes on a star for the world to be different than it is.

[Ivtrix]

If DPS wants to pull more mobs, they should feel free, but it is not on the tank to draw that enmity if they don’t want to either.

You are not entitled to optimal play from random duty roulette players. If you want things done a certain way, get yourself a damn static or use party finder.

The tanks job is to hold emnity. Refusing to do so is a reportable offense. If a player wants to take their time and go slow, the trust system is there for players to use.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

The tanks job is to hold emnity. Refusing to do so is a reportable offense. If a player wants to take their time and go slow, the trust system is there for players to use.

Than DPS pulling more mobs is griefing. If you want tanking done a certain way, do it your damn self.