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  1. #241
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    Zantetsuken's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exni View Post
    I don't think pointing out 1.) how much of a cakewalk our 'endgamish' content is.. or 2.) how completely unbalanced our gear currently is.. helps to make your point at all.. The fact that you can clear all content easily without armor is .. a problem.
    So, just to get this straight.. you want content that can only be beaten via gear-swapping in order to justify adding gear-swapping?


    I could understand if this was flavorful for the game, but gear-swapping is a silly metagame stunt.

    Claiming there is a problem with the game due to a lack of need for gear-swapping, only compounds the absurdity of your argument.
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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 04-12-2012 at 05:34 AM.

  2. #242
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    Battle should be about preparation, not about having to carry different sets of gear for situation X, then situation Y. Choices should be made, for better or for worse. And players shouldn't have to have macros to switch out gear in between attacks, or spells etc. They shouldn't need to.

    While this is a game, from a reality prospect it doesn't make any practical since. And just from a game playing perspective it isn't any fun. I say no, I don't want this type of game.
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  3. #243
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    I can see it now...

    "Ok! Make sure you have your DD gear for when you're nuking and your Fire Resist gear for eruptions and Hellfire, and your Healing gear if things start going bad and your fast cast gear if you need to raise someone and your minus enmity before you combo spells. Everyone good? No? Lolnoob"
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  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    So, just to get this straight.. you want content that can only be beaten via gear-swapping in order to justify adding gear-swapping?


    I could understand if this was flavorful for the game, but gear-swapping is a silly metagame stunt.

    Claiming there is a problem with the game due to a lack of need for it only compounds the absurdity of that argument.
    This is off topic, but thats ok.

    Your class/job wishlist, in your sig.

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  5. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    So, just to get this straight.. you want content that can only be beaten via gear-swapping[I] in order to justify adding gear-swapping?
    Because that's what I said.. GEEZ These forums.... I swear.. Almost noone can make a point without trying to claim someone said something that was never said.. or even implied for that matter!.. And that last sentence in your post.. What?! Well I guess I shouldn't expect that to make much sense since the basis of your counterpoint was completely wrong to begin with..


    Whatever.. I don't even feel like 'officially trying to respond' to that mess this time..
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  6. #246
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    Sagagemini's Avatar
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    Saga Gemini
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    I honestely don't give a **** anymore.
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  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Claiming there is a problem with the game due to a lack of need for gear-swapping, only compounds the absurdity of your argument.
    No, your little edit didn't fix anything. Neither I, nor did anyone else, claim that there was a problem with the game due to a "lack of need for gear swapping". Try again maybe?
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    Last edited by Exni; 04-12-2012 at 05:44 AM.

  8. #248
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    Airget Lamh
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    Changing clothes in the middle of battle!? That's just plain suicide! At least that's what the NPC will tell you before he tells you of his mystical technique to call upon the stars and go Sailor Moon on the mobs behind! Moon Prism Power! HOWEVER their's a limitation for how long you can hold this form for, while you may be able to enhance your power or defense the form only last for 30 seconds so use it wisely, afterwards your body will be left unable to take that form for 15 minutes so only use it when performing a skillchain or taking a hit that may otherwise kill you.

    Yea... if gear swapping existed in this game I'd rather see it work as a concept that you call upon not something you constantly do on the fly. I like the concept of transforming your outward appearance to increase your capabilities, but I want it to be more of a single transformation not a 5 forms of Freeza or Buu kind of transformation of switching between gear to get the most out of every attack. The swap should be done at a point where it's deemed necessary to turn the tide of battle or a quick finisher.
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  9. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
    Battle should be about preparation, not about having to carry different sets of gear for situation X, then situation Y. Choices should be made, for better or for worse. And players shouldn't have to have macros to switch out gear in between attacks, or spells etc. They shouldn't need to.

    While this is a game, from a reality prospect it doesn't make any practical since. And just from a game playing perspective it isn't any fun. I say no, I don't want this type of game.
    How do you prepare for a fight that contains a boss that changes forms of damage mid fight. What if there are periods that the boss goes dormant so you can switch to heavier melee gear for those brief moments before he evolves back into his offensive state. it's hard to prepare for a boss that has many different battle characteristics, with one set of static gear.

    What I get from your post is that you don't want fights that require adaptive players. You want bosses and raids that you can storm through with just one gear set.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but this is what I walked away with after reading your post.
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  10. #250
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
    How do you prepare for a fight that contains a boss that changes forms of damage mid fight.
    How about adjust your strategy rather than your gear? Strategy =/= Gear

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
    What if there are periods that the boss goes dormant so you can switch to heavier melee gear for those brief moments before he evolves back into his offensive state. it's hard to prepare for a boss that has many different battle characteristics, with one set of static gear.
    This is exactly the point those of us on the non-gear swapping side of the fence have been trying to make.
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