What happened to the 8 years of data and market analysis?

**Dreamer** · 03-31-2011 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by Zaene

Well, as it stands I feel that what happened was as could be called a "perfect storm". The right people had the wrong ideas at just the right time combined with possible rushed-out systems and outsourcing. The result is as you see it.

I'm certain this was, while I no means condone its existance, a one-time type of incident.

I agree with Zaena as well. I feel it was basically a combination of being rushed out due to poor upper management (the bean-counters' fault, not the development team leads) and lack of play-testing due to this. During beta testing, it was painfully obvious that many of the systems had never been been reviewed by actual players. Even though the development team probably heard of these problems during this time frame, there simply wasn't anywhere near enough time to correct and re-implement them before launch.

**Evangela** · 03-31-2011 05:18 AM

I wonder the same thing why SE alway being a noob on MMO developer since they had experience from FFXI

**Jinko** · 03-31-2011 05:22 AM

Agreed it was Wada's fault for rushing the product out before it was finished, Tanaka was just the scapegoat.

**AlexiaKidd** · 03-31-2011 05:27 AM

I think that FFXIV wasn't even a Final Fantasy MMO to begin with and probably very late into the development they decided to make it a Final Fantasy one as they figured it would increase sales. Then they would have had to strip away all of the content that they had and make it more FF'ish and change other systems and things to put them more in line with Final Fantasy.

It certainly would explain a lot about this game and it's current state and lack of content.

**Jibe** · 03-31-2011 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

I think that FFXIV wasn't even a Final Fantasy MMO to begin with and probably very late into the development they decided to make it a Final Fantasy one as they figured it would increase sales. Then they would have had to strip away all of the content that they had and make it more FF'ish and change other systems and things to put them more in line with Final Fantasy.

It certainly would explain a lot about this game and it's current state and lack of content.

This is the first time I've seen someone advance that opinion, but it kinda seems to make sense. Although didn't SE announce they were working on a new FF MMO quite awhile back? I mean like years ago? Or did they just say "a new MMO"?

**Grit** · 03-31-2011 05:34 AM

Considering how long it takes them to develop content for MMOs, I can't see the logic behind that explanation.

This game shouldn't have been released for another year, starting today. It just wasn't finished in any sense of the word. And all of the beta testers knew it.

**Kilta_Firelotus** · 03-31-2011 05:36 AM

game was in developement for 5 years. Meaning 3-4 years experience. They did fix issue from ff11 but no one liked the fix.
manual attack vs auto which was dull
game started out with a fov esk system
game was also target to the casuals
crafting is a big part of the game
and a seamless world vs zoning and loading screens
just not all this was taken well, or ppl wanted ffxi v2.
So now they putting in stuff ppl want.

Not to be mean... more saying this as a joke. but. ARE ALL OF YOU APART OF THE NHK?
ITS A CONSPIRICY!!!! ::freaks out::

(kidding) just being silly cuz ppl making off base conspiricy theroies.

**Neptune** · 03-31-2011 05:38 AM

Belgian, one man's craziness is to blame. Tanaka blamed himself, you might as well do the same. He already said FFXI was the perfect game. How do you top perfection? You can't. That's why Tanaka had to go. It's really not that weird. A better question is why does FFXI not have 5 million subscribers?

**AlexiaKidd** · 03-31-2011 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by Jibe

This is the first time I've seen someone advance that opinion, but it kinda seems to make sense. Although didn't SE announce they were working on a new FF MMO quite awhile back? I mean like years ago? Or did they just say "a new MMO"?

No it was only announced as a Final Fantasy MMO at E3 in 2009 up until that point they just said it was another MMO, they even stated it may not be a FF MMO at one point when it was know as Rapture.

Originally Posted by Grit

Considering how long it takes them to develop content for MMOs, I can't see the logic behind that explanation.

This game shouldn't have been released for another year, starting today. It just wasn't finished in any sense of the word. And all of the beta testers knew it.

But then after 6 years in development why do we only have Leve's, Behest and a few Rank Missions as content. Quests that they added recently they said they made from scratch. Where are the chocobo's, airship's and other FF staples that have yet to be finished.

I really can't see how they took so long to make it and this is all they have to show for it unless they had to scrap most of the content to rework or rebuild it to fit in more with a Final Fantasy theme.

**Evenstar** · 03-31-2011 05:40 AM

While, for a change, I agree with you. I fail to understand why you had to make another topic while we already have a million similar topics? The funny part is that 99% of those topics are also opened by you ...

Earlier today I read a post from you saying you really wanted FFXIV to succeed. Is this how you plan to help?

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