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    I'm a relatively new player here - working through Endwalker MSQ still, having a blast!

    I don't use any mods. Never have, never will. I am fine with the game's interface and graphics as they are, and I already know my DPS is terrible without a meter to tell me.
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    Thanks for Sharing OP.

    Yoshi P stated why the WOL doesnt have a voice. It is meant for you yourself to insert the voice in there as they were afraid that setting a voice for the WOL would break several people's emersion in the game and ruin their experience due to not liking the voice options that would be provided.
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    While the teams stance on mods has been a little lenient, the one thing they seem to want to draw a hard line at is mods that will input commands into the client for you or otherwise communicate with the server. Even though you don't feel that gatherbuddy is automation, it is inputting commands to the client for you and is probably something that will get you banned if enough attention is called to it. Also automation doesn't have to be a completely hands off experience, it can be as simple as plotting a course and making your character follow it without your input even though you are acting once you get to the gathering node. Otherwise what I can say for sure is that I was still playing EQ when WoW launched and I remember at the time it being considered EQ for players that couldn't make it in Norrath, so yes there was a time where WoW at launch was considered the easy baby MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahbitha View Post
    I'm a relatively new player here - working through Endwalker MSQ still, having a blast!

    I don't use any mods. Never have, never will. I am fine with the game's interface and graphics as they are, and I already know my DPS is terrible without a meter to tell me.
    Most certainly to each his (or her) own. I love going through the logs after a dungeon, and checking how much damage my party members took vs how much I took (as a tank). Certainly some bosses target random party members etc, but it still gives me a good idea (along with commendations obviously), how good am I doing as tank. And even comparing my damage to the healer, or other tanks and healers in larger groups.

    But I certainly do not want these things integrated into the game.
    And as I said, I can now certainly understand addons should certainly not be adopted or integrated officially, because (as another poster pointed out) they become mandatory very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Thanks for Sharing OP.

    Yoshi P stated why the WOL doesnt have a voice. It is meant for you yourself to insert the voice in there as they were afraid that setting a voice for the WOL would break several people's emersion in the game and ruin their experience due to not liking the voice options that would be provided.
    I did figure that's why it was left out. But hell... No voice with lip flaps and nods being more immersive than a voice you didn't imagine? That, to me, is a hard sell. Especially if "no voice" can be an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Otherwise what I can say for sure is that I was still playing EQ when WoW launched and I remember at the time it being considered EQ for players that couldn't make it in Norrath, so yes there was a time where WoW at launch was considered the easy baby MMO.
    One of the things that both WoW and EQII used to lure people away from EQ was the ability to play solo and small group which was something that was severely lacking in EQ. Both of those games had much more accessible solo experiences. So I do kind of laugh when people talk about vanilla WoW like it was anywhere near as hard as old school MMOs were. I played it. I played EQII. I still played EQ at the time. WoW and EQII were my break from my hardcore game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    One of the things that both WoW and EQII used to lure people away from EQ was the ability to play solo and small group which was something that was severely lacking in EQ. Both of those games had much more accessible solo experiences. So I do kind of laugh when people talk about vanilla WoW like it was anywhere near as hard as old school MMOs were. I played it. I played EQII. I still played EQ at the time. WoW and EQII were my break from my hardcore game.
    I stopped EQ right around the time Planes of Power launched and it became too time consuming to continue, but earlier this year I was getting feelings of nostalgia and found Project 1999, which is a great trip down memory lane but I haven't been on in a while. I will always remember EQ as being and incredible world that felt more alive than anything I have played since despite the limitations of the technology at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    I will pick tiny snippets because most of this is just opinion, but some things need to be mentioned



    No it isnt, WoW was never an absolute cakewalk as FFXIV is, and the leveling even less. Are you sure you played vanilla ?



    No it isnt lmao, you just havent encountered the toxicity of it yet.



    RMT is everywhere in this game, flying lalas, party finder spam, teleporting lalas, spamming low levels in Limsa, or trading gil to other players in busy mode.
    Good to see a nice post of negativity to refute everything the new player has to say. These forums are absolute garbage.
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    Odd how Square Enix does nothing about people who openly confess in public to being mod users.

    What the hell happened to this game? Oh yeah, I remember--

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Odd how Square Enix does nothing about people who openly confess in public to being mod users.

    What the hell happened to this game? Oh yeah, I remember--

    I'm probably missing some context here, but the image alone does not mean they are modding the game, just using and editor on screenshot taken from the game.
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