[dev1358] Materia Reform - Discussion.

[TheFatHousecat]

If the Store Tp can get me from getting 1000tp in 3 hits to getting 1000tp in just 2 hits, I'm going to be a very happy War Tank.

Besides that, the crit and block materias are junk now lol

ILU KUMA

Corselet, as far as I know, only offers ~16 extra TP per hit (with Store TP +40), yet in a 2-4 minute fight it adds about 5-10 DPS; as of yet I've only seen a DPS difference like that derived from weapons with more base dmg. In longer fights, when you aren't TP capped for the majority of the fight, that extra TP, as little as it seems, could go a very long way.

The way I see it, I could either get a little extra dmg. done per hit/WS (depending on meld), or I could have enough TP to use an extra combo or two. Obv, I'd prefer the latter.

[Felis]

The real question is, why on earth would anyone WANT to materia a primal weapon? WHY give people the option to, it's not like you can hold two of them in your inventory at one time. Only feasible excuse is if you get another drop of one you own and you materia it instead of dropping it and geting a new one instead of reparing.

The answer is very simple
1. Put all Ifrit weapons except 1 in your retainer
2. Go to the Ifrit fight
3. If you get a Ifrit weapon you already have in your retainer, spiritbound the new or the old
4. repeat

[KumaAkuma]

Again, vastly underestimating the value of TP. Corselet, as far as I know, only offers ~16 extra TP per hit (with Store TP +40), yet in a 2-4 minute fight it adds about 5-10 DPS; as of yet I've only seen a DPS difference like that derived from weapons with more base dmg. In longer fights, when you aren't TP capped for the majority of the fight, that extra TP, as little as it seems, could go a very long way.

The way I see it, I could either get a little extra dmg. done per hit/WS (depending on meld), or I could have enough TP to use an extra combo or two. Obv, I'd prefer the latter.

Eh I think you missread what I said, I would welcome the store tp materia...

[TheFatHousecat]

Eh I think you missread what I said, I would welcome the store tp materia...

Pfft, well, yes, sorry it's late hahah. But I don't think any of the store TP will give you THAT much of an increase, tbh. I think it'll be in increments similar to Savage Might, so ~60 for III's, and ~70-80 for IV's. That'll still be a great increase, of course, but nothing over 200 TP per hit

[KumaAkuma]

Pfft, well, yes, sorry it's late hahah. But I don't think any of the store TP will give you THAT much of an increase, tbh. I think it'll be in increments similar to Savage Might, so ~60 for III's, and ~70-80 for IV's. That'll still be a great increase, of course, but nothing over 200 TP per hit

Currently I get 950-ish tp in 2 hits. Which means I still need 3 hits for the combo to set hate on all gathered mobs. I don't need a lot of extra tp to reach 1000tp in two hits

[Jinko]

They didn't abolish multi-melding then, how disappointing.

Nothing to suggest they are removing tiers within tiers either, man are these devs stupid, if they truly wanted to help lessen the burden on inventory the first thing they should be doing is consolidating materia to one tier.

[Molly_Millions]

Comunity to SE: we undervalue your shit before we've even seen it

fixed it for you.

[jwang]

Good job at fixing enmity. Now fix all the other crappy materias, like evasion, resists, defense, crit rate (magical and physical).

[Jinko]

Good job at fixing enmity. Now fix all the other crappy materias, like evasion, resists, defense, crit rate (magical and physical).

Probably won't be til 2.0, there is still something wrong with the way Dlvl works and I'm guessing its a limitation set by the previous team.

[viion]

If someone else can put materia onto my char in the same sense of repairs, does this include stacking?

Say for example, I want some materia, I put the request up, maybe I go afk, go to shop, go to bed, w/e, some guy comes, throws the materia on, another guy comes, he tries the 2nd one, then someone else comes tries 3rd, fails, my item gone?

Is it just as fast as repairing, so someone could effectively spam materia and break your item, not sure if it mentions this, didnt read it all, but that be a bit annoyings