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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Right now for me, the tone of the trailer makes no sense if Zeromus still exist because I just cant see the WoL being so relaxed and happy while there is another world ending threat out there. Of course the tone can still change a bit with the full trailer.

    They also cant really rejoin the 13th because jobs like reaper need the existance of the void to function.
    Yeah, while there's not really any spoilers in the teaser (unless you consider something like 'Y'shtola's alive' to be a spoiler), the tone does a lot of speaking on how the void finale will play out. Not only does this not feel like something they'd do if there was still a lingering threat that all parties are immediately aware of, thereby confirming that yeah, Golbez and Zeromus are at least getting put away for a long time. It also doesn't exactly feel like an energy they'd have after losing a friend, so none of the people we didn't see (basically just Zero) are likely dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Yeah, while there's not really any spoilers in the teaser (unless you consider something like 'Y'shtola's alive' to be a spoiler), the tone does a lot of speaking on how the void finale will play out. Not only does this not feel like something they'd do if there was still a lingering threat that all parties are immediately aware of, thereby confirming that yeah, Golbez and Zeromus are at least getting put away for a long time. It also doesn't exactly feel like an energy they'd have after losing a friend, so none of the people we didn't see (basically just Zero) are likely dead.
    At best we may get a new Story quest for Unukalhai and Cyella in the First after the 13th Shard story is complete to conclude the 13th Shard storyline.

    They been working on a method to fix the 13th Shard after all and the story is left on the cliffhanger that Unukalhai is currently still working on it.

    At this point it is easy to access the current quest for Unukalhai and Cyella's story to repair the 13th shard now since we can solo the extreme trials of stormblood unsynced. Just have to do the Ravana and Bismark ones only since we do not need to do the trials for the Triple Triad, only do the quest to unlock them.


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    Now that I seen some of the newer details...


    I like how they added the Pelpupelu people from FFX. A lot of the art reminds me of FFX areas so there is a chance, even if small one, that we may get some FFX theme stuff for this expansion.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 08-03-2023 at 03:24 AM.

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    Looking closely at the new map, there's an extremely large crack that goes across the ocean just north of Tulliyollal, indicating I think a geographic feature reminiscent of that next to the Ridoranna Lighthouse but on a colossal scale, one that looks to divide the continents and bar passage like an inverse Panama Isthmus. Meta-wise I'm assuming this is our barrier to keep us out of North Tural for 7.0, but now I'm wondering if there is a Gulg connection lurking and some dropped Tartarus plot-threads are going to be repurposed for 7.0 like how the original 2.0 Eureka hints after the CT raid series were reused for 8UE Ironworks, the Isle of Val, and then Eureka Orthos.

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    I feel like there will be plot involving this feature; only Dawntrail will tell what it is be used in, and if it probably relates to some previous civilization connected to the cities of gold and some Calamitious event. (I don't mind cleaning up the pieces yet another Ascian evil plan, but please no more Allagans)
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    Last edited by Denishia; 08-09-2023 at 02:19 AM.

  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    The trailer is boring as hell. It seems, it was made for Final Fantasy fan service.




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    It's a teaser so it's not the full trailer rn. I do agree that rn it lacking and I'm not really down for a ''beach calm episode'' when xpac come in a cycle of around 2 years. That what patch questlines are for. Well, we don't know if they will introduce the next villain for the new arc, but I sure hope they do.
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    I think a good way to view the initial teaser trailer for an expansion is more of a tone piece. They're gonna excise any identifiable story elements from it, so all you're left with is the general concept and vibe they're pitching.

    Like, compare it to the Endwalker teaser trailer. That one technically had more to run with, since they only had two keynote events instead of three (thanks covid), but basically all we got there was 'probably Garlemald, stuff's on fire, the moon, Alphinaud's a Gundam now'. And since we're in the future, we can say that was a laughably small slice of the story. But it did at least get across the tonal gist of the expansion.
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    I think it's also important to note that the events shown in teaser trailers are usually showing you early plot points as well. Going to Kugane, Thancred rescuing Ryne from Eulmore, confronting the forum in Old Sharlayan.

    This has only hinted at a story that will ramp up slowly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    I'm not really down for a ''beach calm episode'' when xpac come in a cycle of around 2 years.
    I'm not getting any vibe of it being a "beach calm episode" besides maybe for the first five minutes when we've just arrived and are settling in being touristy before the serious work starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Speaking of more New World locations, it has been mentioned in the past the Garlean Empire had sent out expedition teams already to conquer some of the lands in the New World so we know they have setup control in certain areas of the New World already. However, we only get mentions that uprisings happened in those locations as well during the War when word spread about how the Garlean Empire was being pushed back and the status of those locations and the Garleans left stranded there due to losing contact with the Garlean Empire remains unknown.

    If we are going to one of these locations eventually, I suspect we may get a Final Fantasy 7 theme expansion in a way. We may even get the FF14 version of Shinra in that expansion as well but have them be a Garlean Noble Family house that has control of that location.

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    Some people are pointing this out but we can see something under that robe when the WoL is kneeling down for a very short moment.

    Do you have a source for this? I'm looking into New World lore atm and I've not yet found anything mentioning garleans so I'd be really interested in knowing what I missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldor-Ashdale View Post
    Do you have a source for this? I'm looking into New World lore atm and I've not yet found anything mentioning garleans so I'd be really interested in knowing what I missed.
    As far as I was aware, there is none, and is pure headcanon based on assumptions - Limsa Lominsa sent expeditions to Tural, which is how they ended up with mamool'ja mercenaries working in La Noscea to plug labour shortages immediately following the Calamity (and how we even knew the New World existed), but Garlemald was too concerned with trying and failing to subjugate Eorzea and bring them under the Ivory Standard, then ending up succumbing to internal power squabbles after Solus's death (as all engineered by Emet) to spare crucial manpower and materieal for a frivilous (and hypothetical) romp to the far West.

    Of course I'm happy to be proven wrong though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Further on the dubiousness of Garleans reaching the New World... how? They don't seem to have a strong presence with water-ships, and their airships need refueling points.

    I guess they must have some ships since the Lominsan pirates prey on them, but I got the impression that they were doing that more along the coast of Ilsabard.

    I would also like to hear a source for that claim. And I would rather not have this turn into "Garleans again". Give us something different.
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